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pat_k

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56. That doesn't concern me. His 2021 statement "BDS is rooted in antisemitism" does.
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 07:17 PM
Aug 2024

I don't know many people who had fully evolved ideas when they were 20.

The problem is his record opposing legitimate protest against Israel's policies now.
I do have a problem with his support for the anti-BDS law against Ben & Jerry’s after the ice cream maker refused to license its product for sale in Israeli settlements. In a 2021 statement, he stated “BDS is rooted in antisemitism.”

He also voiced support for laws that would withhold funding from any public university that opted to engage in BDS.

Calls to Boycott, Divest, and Sanction are intended to create conditions under which Israel may be pressured to cease it's systematic efforts to displace Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza through illegal settlements and inhumane treatment of Palestinians. It is a nonviolent human rights movement modeled on the anti-apartheid movement.

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Wasn't that like 30 years ago when he just got out of high school? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #1
You mean same age as those student protesters he seems not to think highly of? BeyondGeography Aug 2024 #6
Those students are acting currently.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #7
Everything is free game in politics. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #27
Yes, and it's expected from the opposing party... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #44
I missed it was the democratic supporters doing it. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #76
Are you saying you didn't read this threads OP here on DU???? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #82
I typically do. I'm slipping. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #99
It turns out even the voucher B.S. is a rightwing lie. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #114
Ya think? DiamondShark Aug 2024 #126
Are we going to hold it against them for 30 years? marybourg Aug 2024 #11
Because these are legit questions, around the same time he wrote this JCMach1 Aug 2024 #84
But wouldn't his answer be obvious.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #87
You really don't get what the right wing noise machine is? JCMach1 Aug 2024 #98
I thought I was being clear.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #109
Just going to leave it there... JCMach1 Aug 2024 #121
DU is a discussion site. Why is it "amplifying" to bring up a discussable topic? LAS14 Aug 2024 #119
Without some threads on DU, I wouldn't have heard the LIE that Shapiro joined the IDF as a youth. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #120
And you wouldn't have known what to say when you heard it elsewhere. LAS14 Aug 2024 #122
A rightwing lie would not have been a discussion in the other outlets I attend. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #123
The quote will be used like he said it yesterday womanofthehills Aug 2024 #136
Shapiro is calling for an immediate two state solution and has harshly criticized Netanyahu emulatorloo Aug 2024 #2
It is a big deal that a candidate would have been a member JCMach1 Aug 2024 #3
30 years ago. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #8
Let me just frame it. I was offered a chance to train. With the Sandinistas JCMach1 Aug 2024 #10
Israel is not, and never was the Sandinistas. marybourg Aug 2024 #14
Let me just frame it for you. SHAPIRO WAS NOT IN THE FUCKING IDF and DID NOT "swear allegiance" emulatorloo Aug 2024 #60
He stated it as volunteer work for IDF... JCMach1 Aug 2024 #78
There's nothing complex or nuanced about it. He was on a highschool volunteer trip, on a farm, a fishery, emulatorloo Aug 2024 #85
Seems like there is a lot of crap going around iemanja Aug 2024 #96
Oh Please Zeitghost Aug 2024 #12
Bernie Sanders was also a member of a kibbutz JohnSJ Aug 2024 #93
He was not a member of a foreign military service. marybourg Aug 2024 #13
++++++++ emulatorloo Aug 2024 #62
More profoundly dishonest than insane. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #131
he was never part of the IDF. As a high school project jg10003 Aug 2024 #19
He was not a member of a foreign military service. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #24
There is nothing to defend. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #36
He volunteered to do service work. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #42
i am just relaying his words questionseverything Aug 2024 #68
Hang on, hang on, let's see if I understand this correctly. DiamondShark Aug 2024 #127
I googled and there there are no links that support that claim. lapucelle Aug 2024 #83
If you click on the link in the tweet below you will see the full newspaper page and can read the whole thing Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #100
Citing one instance consisting of one sentence from something written 30 years ago lapucelle Aug 2024 #106
I never said 30 years. I cited what he said. So he said he served. You always want more but i Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #115
You responded to me in a subthread. I was responding to to the ridiculous claim lapucelle Aug 2024 #116
Whatever you say. I can't read your reply. Too many words. I'm sure you are 100% right. Enjoy! Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #117
That's OK. I couldn't read some of the stuff on the twitter account you linked to. I don't read Arabic. lapucelle Aug 2024 #118
This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Aug 2024 #52
I'm shocked that you are doubling down on misinformation. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #64
Yes so very Shocking. It seems very important for Cha Aug 2024 #103
People are pushing back on misinformation before it evolves into DISINFORMATION. lapucelle Aug 2024 #80
Plus a million. The disinformation mongers are a very Nixie Aug 2024 #90
Mahalo, lapucelle! "Who benefits from misinformation repeated to the point that it becomes disinformation?" Cha Aug 2024 #104
Except that Shapiro wasn't "a member of a foreign military service". lapucelle Aug 2024 #69
Well that's that. We can't afford to lose battleground state Mi. brush Aug 2024 #4
Can't afford to lose PA either. wnylib Aug 2024 #18
So we keep one or lose one, instead of keeping both? brush Aug 2024 #31
I am just pointing out that MI is not the only important state wnylib Aug 2024 #37
And I'm pointing out we don't have to take the chance of loosing MI... brush Aug 2024 #49
Why are you asking me? It's VP Harris' decision to make. wnylib Aug 2024 #55
Are you backing away from your posts stating your obvious preference for Shapiro as the veep pick? brush Aug 2024 #59
Re-read my posts. Your claim that my posts wnylib Aug 2024 #61
Oh, okay. brush Aug 2024 #63
Harris can lose MI and still win the election if she wins PA. She cannot lose PA and win the election. jg10003 Aug 2024 #73
Well, show us the math. It's going ot be a close election. Why take chances? brush Aug 2024 #81
Are you saying there is no way SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #34
See my #37. wnylib Aug 2024 #40
And Why Would We "Lose Michigan"? Cha Aug 2024 #105
We won't. This is a serious minority who would never vote for us anyway...For example Nina Turner is Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #88
We can't afford to lose even a few percentage points of Gen Z either. Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #125
A lot of us did things when we were young which is not who we are now having matured. elocs Aug 2024 #5
There was not, and is not, anything wrong with what he did. He isn't my marybourg Aug 2024 #16
Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #26
No, he did not. orange jar Aug 2024 #32
I suggest googling the definition of a trope. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #43
Wow, that's just an outright lie. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #46
Dual loyalty sarisataka Aug 2024 #47
You have not read the link or what people are writing. He did nothing other marybourg Aug 2024 #48
THAT IS UNTRUE. Please self delete emulatorloo Aug 2024 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #54
Read the damn quote from the OP's article and stop spreading disinformation. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #57
nyt's article questionseverything Aug 2024 #65
Once again read the actual quote in the OP article. You are completely misinterpreting the NYT'S one emulatorloo Aug 2024 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #70
I can not make it any plainer. You completely misunderstand. You claim he was a member of the IDF, he was not. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #72
it's saturday night, the article is there for anyone to read....have a good one questionseverything Aug 2024 #75
You too. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #77
Shapiro did not write that in his essay. Those are not his own words. lapucelle Aug 2024 #94
In his words TommyT139 Aug 2024 #108
Yes, I know what Shapiro wrote in the essay. I was refuting the claim by the poster (via the NYT) lapucelle Aug 2024 #112
/nods TommyT139 Aug 2024 #113
The New York Times article says no such thing. lapucelle Aug 2024 #92
Bullshit. He did no such thing. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #66
6-27-2024 NoRethugFriends Aug 2024 #9
Yep Mossfern Aug 2024 #29
It was part of a high school program where they did volunteer work madaboutharry Aug 2024 #15
+1000 wnylib Aug 2024 #20
Oh, I think omitting that salient information is quite on purpose Sympthsical Aug 2024 #25
Remember how ridiculous it was to blame Bernie for an essay he wrote in college? yardwork Aug 2024 #17
sorry Skittles Aug 2024 #41
One huge difference is Bernie's was fiction questionseverything Aug 2024 #50
It wasn't fiction. It was an essay that theorized on causes of cancer. lapucelle Aug 2024 #97
Dual Loyalty Trope gonna trope Sympthsical Aug 2024 #21
I know. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #22
Yep. orange jar Aug 2024 #30
"I don't see the same people pearl clutching over Americans fighting in Ukraine right now." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #33
Does Shapiro? orange jar Aug 2024 #35
"Just because someone may be VP doesn't necessarily mean they want to be the future president." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #45
I'm sure we would hear about it Sympthsical Aug 2024 #39
Shapiro was not in the IDF nor did he "fight." emulatorloo Aug 2024 #58
Korean Americans as well Sympthsical Aug 2024 #38
The question of foreign allegiance here would become a relevant conversation. ColinC Aug 2024 #51
That doesn't concern me. His 2021 statement "BDS is rooted in antisemitism" does. pat_k Aug 2024 #56
It is a death to Israel scam significantly perpetrated by antisemitic and racist assholes TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #89
Opposing illegal settlements is not "death to Israel"... pat_k Aug 2024 #102
Yeah, that is all the "movement" is about...that's the ticket!!! TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #128
For a vast majority, it is. pat_k Aug 2024 #129
Did I stutter? TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #132
?? pat_k Aug 2024 #135
I have no problem with someone serving in a ally's military SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #71
Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #74
... emulatorloo Aug 2024 #79
Are you claiming he will favor Israel because he is Jewish sarisataka Aug 2024 #91
You know JFK was asked if he be loyal to the US or to the Vatican...he was Catholic...bigoty a curse we continue Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #101
Oh my stars...bring me my smelling salts and some pearls to clutch...30 years ago he volunteered for the IDF or on Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #86
He's going to be asked about it because with the ME being a powder keg right now there's no way it wouldn't ms liberty Aug 2024 #95
There is/was NOTHING WRONG Mossfern Aug 2024 #107
You might want to reread what I wrote, because I didn't say he or what he said was wrong ms liberty Aug 2024 #130
You misunderstood my comment Mossfern Aug 2024 #133
And I never accused him of joining the IDF, nor did I accuse him of giving allegiance to another nation ms liberty Aug 2024 #137
I'm not accusing you of anything, just disagreeing with what you said ... Mossfern Aug 2024 #138
Grist for the mill. dchill Aug 2024 #110
This is smear Sugarcoated Aug 2024 #111
this is why you do due diligence on everyone ZonkerHarris Aug 2024 #124
if the VP choice is divisive, we lose ecstatic Aug 2024 #134
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