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104. Mahalo, lapucelle! "Who benefits from misinformation repeated to the point that it becomes disinformation?"

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Sat Aug 3, 2024, 10:34 PM

Aug 2024

"Not Democrats."

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Shapiro seeks to downplay his time as IDF volunteer after college op-ed resurfaces [View all] onandup Aug 2024 OP

Wasn't that like 30 years ago when he just got out of high school? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #1

You mean same age as those student protesters he seems not to think highly of? BeyondGeography Aug 2024 #6

Those students are acting currently.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #7

Everything is free game in politics. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #27

Yes, and it's expected from the opposing party... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #44

I missed it was the democratic supporters doing it. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #76

Are you saying you didn't read this threads OP here on DU???? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #82

I typically do. I'm slipping. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #99

It turns out even the voucher B.S. is a rightwing lie. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #114

Ya think? DiamondShark Aug 2024 #126

Are we going to hold it against them for 30 years? marybourg Aug 2024 #11

Because these are legit questions, around the same time he wrote this JCMach1 Aug 2024 #84

But wouldn't his answer be obvious.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #87

You really don't get what the right wing noise machine is? JCMach1 Aug 2024 #98

I thought I was being clear.... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #109

Just going to leave it there... JCMach1 Aug 2024 #121

DU is a discussion site. Why is it "amplifying" to bring up a discussable topic? LAS14 Aug 2024 #119

Without some threads on DU, I wouldn't have heard the LIE that Shapiro joined the IDF as a youth. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #120

And you wouldn't have known what to say when you heard it elsewhere. LAS14 Aug 2024 #122

A rightwing lie would not have been a discussion in the other outlets I attend. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #123

The quote will be used like he said it yesterday womanofthehills Aug 2024 #136

Shapiro is calling for an immediate two state solution and has harshly criticized Netanyahu emulatorloo Aug 2024 #2

It is a big deal that a candidate would have been a member JCMach1 Aug 2024 #3

30 years ago. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #8

Let me just frame it. I was offered a chance to train. With the Sandinistas JCMach1 Aug 2024 #10

Israel is not, and never was the Sandinistas. marybourg Aug 2024 #14

Let me just frame it for you. SHAPIRO WAS NOT IN THE FUCKING IDF and DID NOT "swear allegiance" emulatorloo Aug 2024 #60

He stated it as volunteer work for IDF... JCMach1 Aug 2024 #78

There's nothing complex or nuanced about it. He was on a highschool volunteer trip, on a farm, a fishery, emulatorloo Aug 2024 #85

Seems like there is a lot of crap going around iemanja Aug 2024 #96

Oh Please Zeitghost Aug 2024 #12

Bernie Sanders was also a member of a kibbutz JohnSJ Aug 2024 #93

He was not a member of a foreign military service. marybourg Aug 2024 #13

++++++++ emulatorloo Aug 2024 #62

More profoundly dishonest than insane. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #131

he was never part of the IDF. As a high school project jg10003 Aug 2024 #19

He was not a member of a foreign military service. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #24

There is nothing to defend. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #36

He volunteered to do service work. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #42

i am just relaying his words questionseverything Aug 2024 #68

Hang on, hang on, let's see if I understand this correctly. DiamondShark Aug 2024 #127

I googled and there there are no links that support that claim. lapucelle Aug 2024 #83

If you click on the link in the tweet below you will see the full newspaper page and can read the whole thing Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #100

Citing one instance consisting of one sentence from something written 30 years ago lapucelle Aug 2024 #106

I never said 30 years. I cited what he said. So he said he served. You always want more but i Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #115

You responded to me in a subthread. I was responding to to the ridiculous claim lapucelle Aug 2024 #116

Whatever you say. I can't read your reply. Too many words. I'm sure you are 100% right. Enjoy! Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #117

That's OK. I couldn't read some of the stuff on the twitter account you linked to. I don't read Arabic. lapucelle Aug 2024 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Aug 2024 #52

I'm shocked that you are doubling down on misinformation. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #64

Yes so very Shocking. It seems very important for Cha Aug 2024 #103

People are pushing back on misinformation before it evolves into DISINFORMATION. lapucelle Aug 2024 #80

Plus a million. The disinformation mongers are a very Nixie Aug 2024 #90

Mahalo, lapucelle! "Who benefits from misinformation repeated to the point that it becomes disinformation?" Cha Aug 2024 #104

Except that Shapiro wasn't "a member of a foreign military service". lapucelle Aug 2024 #69

Well that's that. We can't afford to lose battleground state Mi. brush Aug 2024 #4

Can't afford to lose PA either. wnylib Aug 2024 #18

So we keep one or lose one, instead of keeping both? brush Aug 2024 #31

I am just pointing out that MI is not the only important state wnylib Aug 2024 #37

And I'm pointing out we don't have to take the chance of loosing MI... brush Aug 2024 #49

Why are you asking me? It's VP Harris' decision to make. wnylib Aug 2024 #55

Are you backing away from your posts stating your obvious preference for Shapiro as the veep pick? brush Aug 2024 #59

Re-read my posts. Your claim that my posts wnylib Aug 2024 #61

Oh, okay. brush Aug 2024 #63

Harris can lose MI and still win the election if she wins PA. She cannot lose PA and win the election. jg10003 Aug 2024 #73

Well, show us the math. It's going ot be a close election. Why take chances? brush Aug 2024 #81

Are you saying there is no way SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #34

See my #37. wnylib Aug 2024 #40

And Why Would We "Lose Michigan"? Cha Aug 2024 #105

We won't. This is a serious minority who would never vote for us anyway...For example Nina Turner is Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #88

We can't afford to lose even a few percentage points of Gen Z either. Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #125

A lot of us did things when we were young which is not who we are now having matured. elocs Aug 2024 #5

There was not, and is not, anything wrong with what he did. He isn't my marybourg Aug 2024 #16

Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #26

No, he did not. orange jar Aug 2024 #32

I suggest googling the definition of a trope. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #43

Wow, that's just an outright lie. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #46

Dual loyalty sarisataka Aug 2024 #47

You have not read the link or what people are writing. He did nothing other marybourg Aug 2024 #48

THAT IS UNTRUE. Please self delete emulatorloo Aug 2024 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #54

Read the damn quote from the OP's article and stop spreading disinformation. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #57

nyt's article questionseverything Aug 2024 #65

Once again read the actual quote in the OP article. You are completely misinterpreting the NYT'S one emulatorloo Aug 2024 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author questionseverything Aug 2024 #70

I can not make it any plainer. You completely misunderstand. You claim he was a member of the IDF, he was not. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #72

it's saturday night, the article is there for anyone to read....have a good one questionseverything Aug 2024 #75

You too. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #77

Shapiro did not write that in his essay. Those are not his own words. lapucelle Aug 2024 #94

In his words TommyT139 Aug 2024 #108

Yes, I know what Shapiro wrote in the essay. I was refuting the claim by the poster (via the NYT) lapucelle Aug 2024 #112

/nods TommyT139 Aug 2024 #113

The New York Times article says no such thing. lapucelle Aug 2024 #92

Bullshit. He did no such thing. emulatorloo Aug 2024 #66

6-27-2024 NoRethugFriends Aug 2024 #9

Yep Mossfern Aug 2024 #29

It was part of a high school program where they did volunteer work madaboutharry Aug 2024 #15

+1000 wnylib Aug 2024 #20

Oh, I think omitting that salient information is quite on purpose Sympthsical Aug 2024 #25

Remember how ridiculous it was to blame Bernie for an essay he wrote in college? yardwork Aug 2024 #17

sorry Skittles Aug 2024 #41

One huge difference is Bernie's was fiction questionseverything Aug 2024 #50

It wasn't fiction. It was an essay that theorized on causes of cancer. lapucelle Aug 2024 #97

Dual Loyalty Trope gonna trope Sympthsical Aug 2024 #21

I know. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #22

Yep. orange jar Aug 2024 #30

"I don't see the same people pearl clutching over Americans fighting in Ukraine right now." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #33

Does Shapiro? orange jar Aug 2024 #35

"Just because someone may be VP doesn't necessarily mean they want to be the future president." WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #45

I'm sure we would hear about it Sympthsical Aug 2024 #39

Shapiro was not in the IDF nor did he "fight." emulatorloo Aug 2024 #58

Korean Americans as well Sympthsical Aug 2024 #38

The question of foreign allegiance here would become a relevant conversation. ColinC Aug 2024 #51

That doesn't concern me. His 2021 statement "BDS is rooted in antisemitism" does. pat_k Aug 2024 #56

It is a death to Israel scam significantly perpetrated by antisemitic and racist assholes TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #89

Opposing illegal settlements is not "death to Israel"... pat_k Aug 2024 #102

Yeah, that is all the "movement" is about...that's the ticket!!! TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #128

For a vast majority, it is. pat_k Aug 2024 #129

Did I stutter? TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #132

?? pat_k Aug 2024 #135

I have no problem with someone serving in a ally's military SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #71

Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #74

... emulatorloo Aug 2024 #79

Are you claiming he will favor Israel because he is Jewish sarisataka Aug 2024 #91

You know JFK was asked if he be loyal to the US or to the Vatican...he was Catholic...bigoty a curse we continue Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #101

Oh my stars...bring me my smelling salts and some pearls to clutch...30 years ago he volunteered for the IDF or on Demsrule86 Aug 2024 #86

He's going to be asked about it because with the ME being a powder keg right now there's no way it wouldn't ms liberty Aug 2024 #95

There is/was NOTHING WRONG Mossfern Aug 2024 #107

You might want to reread what I wrote, because I didn't say he or what he said was wrong ms liberty Aug 2024 #130

You misunderstood my comment Mossfern Aug 2024 #133

And I never accused him of joining the IDF, nor did I accuse him of giving allegiance to another nation ms liberty Aug 2024 #137

I'm not accusing you of anything, just disagreeing with what you said ... Mossfern Aug 2024 #138

Grist for the mill. dchill Aug 2024 #110

This is smear Sugarcoated Aug 2024 #111

this is why you do due diligence on everyone ZonkerHarris Aug 2024 #124

if the VP choice is divisive, we lose ecstatic Aug 2024 #134