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BannonsLiver

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46. Yeah, sorry, it's not the black guys fault Hillary lost.

Sun Aug 25, 2024, 05:28 PM

Aug 25

And Obama isn’t the reason “things suck today.” 🙄

He won 2 elections by wide margins. There’s been 2 Dems since 1944 who have done that. And he did it in the face of savage, unprecedented racism and rat fuckery from the other side which, typically, is left out of most assessments of his 8 years on this forum.

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Presidents during my lifetime - Ranked worst to best - Comments and disagreements welcomed [View all] GoneOffShore Aug 25 OP

Jimmy Carter? unc70 Aug 25 #1

Was typing too quickly GoneOffShore Aug 25 #12

Where is Jimmy Carter? GaYellowDawg Aug 25 #2

Fixed it. GoneOffShore Aug 25 #13

You left out Jimmy Carter iwillalwayswonderwhy Aug 25 #3

My apolgogies - I should have had a nap before writing the post GoneOffShore Aug 25 #10

He's second on my BPOMLT list ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 25 #40

Reagan was worse than most people realize Joinfortmill Aug 25 #4

Or whoever was actually running the country iwillalwayswonderwhy Aug 25 #5

Same applies today newdeal2 Aug 25 #8

Reagan was overrated BluenFLA Aug 25 #32

Reagan was a union buster. Air Traffic Controllers? demosincebirth Aug 26 #57

You forgot Jimmy Carter. How could ANYONE forget Jimmy Carter? Oopsie Daisy Aug 25 #6

That was not intentional. I was typing quickly and from memory. Blame it on after lunch drowsiness GoneOffShore Aug 25 #9

Got it! Oopsie Daisy Aug 25 #22

This would best be visualized in a heat map. Hugin Aug 25 #7

The whole post was done quickly post luncheon. And, as you say, highly subjective. GoneOffShore Aug 25 #14

Typically, by the time I get something like this... Hugin Aug 25 #18

I'd put Carter in there with Clinton, Eisenhower and Johnson. lees1975 Aug 25 #11

i'm younger than you but here's my list....... Takket Aug 25 #15

I'd swap Nixon and Ford. sinkingfeeling Aug 25 #16

Nixon did accomplish a few decent things on his own while being a crook. haele Aug 25 #33

I always move Kennedy up despite his brief presidency displacedvermoter Aug 25 #17

Clinton better than Kennedy? Grumpy Old Guy Aug 25 #19

I would beg to differ somewhat: Ocelot II Aug 25 #20

It's hard to say who was worst. yardwork Aug 25 #24

True, there are different kinds of bad. Ocelot II Aug 25 #31

Good listing Arne Aug 25 #28

I downgrade LBJ for Vietnam ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 25 #41

Donald Trump - the worst in US history. J_William_Ryan Aug 25 #21

This is the way I would list them too. arkielib Aug 25 #23

And Biden and Pelosi got the ACA passed! yardwork Aug 25 #25

Good point! arkielib Aug 25 #29

I have a very different take if..fish..had..wings Aug 25 #26

I'd swap Biden and Carter. Keep LBJ first. Stinky The Clown Aug 25 #36

You left out Truman GoneOffShore Aug 26 #56

Eisenhower inaugurated before my birth so if..fish..had..wings Aug 26 #60

Ike was a placeholder. He goes next to Ford. Voltaire2 Aug 25 #27

Jimmy Carter should be third from the bottom. Before Truman in my opinion. I have no memory of Truman. usaf-vet Aug 25 #30

According to the 2024 version of the Presidential Greatness Project from the APSA: Poiuyt Aug 25 #34

Biden twice? madamesilverspurs Aug 26 #53

Oops! Poiuyt Aug 26 #59

Wasn't around for some of the presidents in your list, but here's mine BluenFLA Aug 25 #35

My sentimentality for Carter ranks him higher, but that's a great list. Realistic ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 25 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 25 #47

People are sleeping on W Bush. BannonsLiver Aug 25 #37

Kennedy is underated jacksonian Aug 25 #38

"I was never too big on Obama." BannonsLiver Aug 25 #39

While I admire, respect and supported him, aka-chmeee Aug 25 #43

Clearly. BannonsLiver Aug 25 #45

Well, yes aka-chmeee Aug 25 #50

He was rated 8th all time by historians. dem4decades Aug 25 #51

Wait, don't get me wrong jacksonian Aug 25 #44

Yeah, sorry, it's not the black guys fault Hillary lost. BannonsLiver Aug 25 #46

Nope, it was Hillary's fault Hillary didn't win jacksonian Aug 25 #49

I would... MoseShrute Aug 25 #48

Dubya thanks God every day for Trump putting him lower on the list. keithbvadu2 Aug 25 #52

Bush is worse than Reagan iemanja Aug 26 #54

Reagan made Trump possible. madamesilverspurs Aug 26 #55

Okay, since the 1960s: Deep13 Aug 26 #58

No FDR? Vinca Aug 26 #61

Not my lifetime - I was born in 1948 GoneOffShore Aug 26 #62

I think I'd switch Ford and Nixon jmowreader Aug 26 #63