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Oopsie Daisy

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Mon Sep 16, 2024, 06:54 AM Sep 2024

The alleged shooter was 300-500 yards away? [View all]

That's quite a long distance. Was he a marksman? Could he have taken-the-shot from such a long distance?

With all the breathless accounts of how "close" he was to Trump, I wonder: was there a clear line of sight? Could he actually SEE Trump from his vantage point? Or were there trees, hills, buildings, walls, interior rooms, curvy paths, more trees that blocked his sight?

For clarity and perspective, the claimed distance would be equal to three-to-five playing fields... aligned end to end.



Trump was not in danger.

Here is another photo to help visualize the distances claimed. Find marker #17... that's 1500 feet. Marker #12 is close to 900 feet.



Trump was not in danger.

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I also heard... essaynnc Sep 2024 #1
Short barrels. Not overly accurate. marble falls Sep 2024 #4
What are you comparing them to? sarisataka Sep 2024 #57
Oh, I dunno, say a scoped hunting rifle. Effective and accurate are not the same thing. marble falls Sep 2024 #71
When speaking of rifles, effective and accurate are synonymous. sarisataka Sep 2024 #72
That's less than 500 yards. At 500 yards a 24 inch demosincebirth Sep 2024 #78
He had an AK-47 Kaleva Sep 2024 #6
Correct. When I change the firearm type, Google's answer changes: Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #13
Yes Kaleva Sep 2024 #15
US Army BRM is 50-300 meters (328 yards) underpants Sep 2024 #40
Making it less accurate Aviation Pro Sep 2024 #54
Interesting question. According to Google * Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #8
Think this was an SKS, bigger caliber than the AR ExciteBike66 Sep 2024 #9
Caliber, as in bullet diameter, is almost meaningless for this discussion sir pball Sep 2024 #34
The accuracy of the AR-15 depends upong the maker, model and ammo... but Happy Hoosier Sep 2024 #43
It depends on what you consider long distance sarisataka Sep 2024 #48
And, it was a straight-off-the-rack, plain Jane M16A1. yagotme Sep 2024 #58
Actually was a Hollywood Marine sarisataka Sep 2024 #59
Yeah, I had a bad year once. Twisted my ankle pretty bad week before RR, they still sent me. yagotme Sep 2024 #60
M-1 for me. 300 was rather easy. 500 was not all that difficult. Ping Tung Sep 2024 #79
He had an AK-47, not an AR-15 jmowreader Sep 2024 #73
AK-47? So I've heard. SharonAnn Sep 2024 #80
In theory, if that distance...he would need a scope Dan Sep 2024 #82
The media will milk this story for days. Lonestarblue Sep 2024 #2
Yep and I was sick of it after the first hour. Bev54 Sep 2024 #53
The media has been reporting that Trump wasn't in danger Kaleva Sep 2024 #3
Guy probably thinks he's going to be pardoned bucolic_frolic Sep 2024 #5
It was at best a foiled attempt malaise Sep 2024 #7
He was waiting at the golf course hole for Trump to arrive. John1956PA Sep 2024 #10
I'm not sure why most people don't ... Whiskeytide Sep 2024 #67
As I understand it the SS was a hole ahead ahead of drumpf Takket Sep 2024 #11
How did he know about the unscheduled golf outing? Emile Sep 2024 #12
Excellent question. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #14
Just follow the motorcade jmbar2 Sep 2024 #16
He sure as shit wasn't out on the campaign trail,nah....keep golfing Trump,it will be over soon! Bengus81 Sep 2024 #22
He campaigns like he's still on the TV show jmbar2 Sep 2024 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #44
He was there 12 hours. Emile Sep 2024 #84
If you know what town he's in, you know he's going to the golf course. jmbar2 Sep 2024 #85
So he didn't follow the motorcade and knew for Emile Sep 2024 #86
Trump golfs every day jmbar2 Sep 2024 #87
So? Emile Sep 2024 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #93
Trump plays almost every Sunday he's there. underpants Sep 2024 #39
It was a Sunday and not raining. Attilatheblond Sep 2024 #77
He ate a lot of carrots to get such great peepers! Omnipresent Sep 2024 #17
Didn't Trumps buddies over at CNN announce he was "leaving" Mar-a-logo? Bengus81 Sep 2024 #18
Routh may not have even seen tfg yet. duncang Sep 2024 #19
Hitting out to 500 meters with optics is not difficult Abnredleg Sep 2024 #20
I wonder if whomever supplied the rifle claimed that it was sighted in--had he ever fired it? John Farmer Sep 2024 #69
There is a fairly big difference.... Happy Hoosier Sep 2024 #76
Doesn't someone have to actually fire a shot to be a 'shooter'? Captain Stern Sep 2024 #21
Precisely n/t malaise Sep 2024 #25
No. TwilightZone Sep 2024 #30
Depends on the context. John1956PA Sep 2024 #46
I get your point, but the definition you provided confirms what I said, doesn't it? Captain Stern Sep 2024 #66
Didn't the shooter assume Trump would be moving closer to him? Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #23
The 300-500 could have been from where the shooter was to the green Trump LizBeth Sep 2024 #47
Yes. This is a logical assumption. Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #90
How would we know this? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2024 #50
Crime scene analysis Irish_Dem Sep 2024 #89
The rifle he had was also the wrong gun to use obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #24
300 to 500 meters is is not long range Abnredleg Sep 2024 #28
Heck DeepWinter Sep 2024 #35
US Army BRM is from 50-300 meters (328 yards). You're right this isn't extremely far underpants Sep 2024 #36
2000m is an exceptionally long range shot sir pball Sep 2024 #42
2000 ***METERS*** is more than a mile and typical snipers shoot in 3 - 600 meter range (google results) uponit7771 Sep 2024 #64
Current record is 3,800 meters EX500rider Sep 2024 #92
If his intent was assassination, he was probably waiting for Trump to get closer. Martin Eden Sep 2024 #27
Trump traveled from Mar-a-Lago to the golf course in West Palm Beach. John1956PA Sep 2024 #31
That's what I thought too underpants Sep 2024 #37
Regarding the seemingly illogical layout of the golf course Martin Eden Sep 2024 #41
Does he have a food taster? GreenWave Sep 2024 #29
Trump wasn't threatened. DJ Porkchop Sep 2024 #32
Didn't he have a scope? hlthe2b Sep 2024 #33
It's been reported that he did. underpants Sep 2024 #38
It depends on the equipment (range finder, etc) and the skill level of the shooter. Practice, practice, practice surfered Sep 2024 #45
I would consider 300 on the low end of medium range sarisataka Sep 2024 #49
Seems lone wolves do exist. Let's see what this guy has to say. Is he really a lone wolf nut or... brush Sep 2024 #51
Wondering what happened to the two people shooting at each other originally reported? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2024 #52
That initial report was wrong DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2024 #56
Really? MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2024 #75
500 yards is more than a quarter of a mile Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #55
The wonders of modern technology sarisataka Sep 2024 #61
TSF was about 3-500 yards away when gunman was discovered by SS, yagotme Sep 2024 #62
You're not alone. Oopsie Daisy Sep 2024 #68
From another post I just read: Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #83
Was shooter planning on firing from 500 yards, or was he set up for when trump got closer? Think it's latter. Silent Type Sep 2024 #63
right, 500 meters is a over a quarter mile away and even with best equipment that's a hard shot in populated area uponit7771 Sep 2024 #65
How populated is a golf course? sarisataka Sep 2024 #70
He wasn't a shooter Johnny2X2X Sep 2024 #74
He was at the next hole, laying in wait. 300-500 yards is typical in golf courses. TheBlackAdder Sep 2024 #81
From everything I've heard about the layout and the timeline ... Straw Man Sep 2024 #91
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #94
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