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Self Esteem

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107. I am not wrong.

Tue Sep 24, 2024, 08:27 PM

Sep 24

It's just plain excuse making to suggest people who are morbidly obese have no responsibility in that happening.

Trust me: I was obese once too during COVID. I put on a good amount of weight because I never left the house and ordered in a lot. It was not a healthy lifestyle. But once I started cutting down on my calories, shocker, I started losing the weight. That is the case for a vast majority of people. You don't get to be 100+ pounds overweight if you didn't have a hand in it. That's not being a jerk. It's being a realist.

And you know what? I don't care if anyone is morbidly obese. It's none of my business. I'm just saying you start regulating personal health and that's the first thing that should be regulated because it's the most impactful. But I don't think you should regulate personal health. Just like I don't think seatbelts should be mandated. We're all responsible for ourselves and the consequences of the actions.

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Legalizing Sports Gambling Was a Huge Mistake [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Sep 23 OP

I believe ALL easy-access gambling is harmful. yagotme Sep 23 #1

The addiction pathway Warpy Sep 23 #36

They learned very little from 19th century Britain malaise Sep 23 #2

Gambling is universally legal in Britain now Trenzalore Sep 23 #21

I know malaise Sep 23 #23

The alternative is organized crime Trenzalore Sep 23 #24

It is not as though there was not sufficient evidence on gambling impact to predict this... hlthe2b Sep 23 #3

What? They have pokies in the airports? That's just weird.. Violet_Crumble Sep 25 #110

Hah! I have never heard the term "pokies"... No, Nevada is the exception with them nearly everywhere.. hlthe2b Sep 25 #111

Yep DeepWinter Sep 23 #4

But they will blame the Democrats and a "bad economy" for not having any spending money Walleye Sep 23 #6

Now there's a shocker. RandomNumbers Sep 23 #5

Gambler's ruin is theorem part of earning Stats degree IbogaProject Sep 24 #89

I noticed those self-righteous evangelical Christians haven't weighed in on this Walleye Sep 23 #7

Legalizing ONLINE gambling was a bigger mistake jmowreader Sep 23 #8

Its not really the governments job Mountainguy Sep 23 #9

it is actually a good part of the government's job NoRethugFriends Sep 23 #11

It shouldn't be Mountainguy Sep 23 #12

So you're opposed to seat belt laws? nt thucythucy Sep 23 #18

Yes Mountainguy Sep 23 #50

Who ends up paying the medical and rehab bills thucythucy Sep 23 #60

Do you think government should regulate how much you eat? Self Esteem Sep 23 #70

I think government should certainly ensure that the food we eat isn't outright poisonous. thucythucy Sep 23 #73

Your line drawn is inconsistent and why your point falls apart. Self Esteem Sep 23 #78

Exactly Mountainguy Sep 23 #80

"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." thucythucy Sep 24 #90

I think your stance is anti-pragmatic actually. Self Esteem Sep 24 #98

I think the difference here is that thucythucy Sep 24 #103

The onus of obesity should not be on the individual. alarimer Sep 24 #94

Yeah I disagree entirely. Self Esteem Sep 24 #99

You are completely 100% wrong. alarimer Sep 24 #106

I am not wrong. Self Esteem Sep 24 #107

Yeah, i have seen some pretty horrific injuries and bills Mountainguy Sep 23 #79

I'm sorry you had to witness those injuries, but personal anecdotes generally don't make for good public policy. thucythucy Sep 24 #91

What a non sequitur that is. nt Disaffected Sep 24 #108

It isn't just protecting people from themselves . . . markpkessinger Sep 23 #65

Still not the job of the government Mountainguy Sep 23 #81

This is not a libertarian site . . . markpkessinger Sep 24 #100

And telling people how to live their personal lives Mountainguy Sep 24 #104

Sure. And that's all speed limit laws do too. Disaffected Sep 23 #74

Sorry but no Mountainguy Sep 23 #82

"Impacts others" you say. So does non-use of seatbelts. Disaffected Sep 23 #85

You want to argue that Mountainguy Sep 24 #86

I would contend that a logical pretzel is Disaffected Sep 24 #96

Atleast you understand the first rule of holes. Mountainguy Sep 24 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author Disaffected Sep 24 #109

Isn't the ability to file bankruptcy a "nanny"? Envirogal Sep 23 #33

No, its a safety net Mountainguy Sep 23 #51

"What's best" is a state enabled addiction Envirogal Sep 23 #67

I got a bridge to sell you if you think day traders do their thing on a fair playing field. PeaceWave Sep 23 #13

Ok, but not the point Mountainguy Sep 23 #17

Day trading cannot be made illegal. However, educational advertising wouldn't be a bad idea. PeaceWave Sep 23 #20

That is a great idea! Envirogal Sep 23 #34

I see a tiny notice on all gambling ads dickthegrouch Sep 23 #77

They have Mountainguy Sep 23 #83

It could absolutely be made illegal Mountainguy Sep 23 #53

There is already a capital gains penalty for making short term investments. However... PeaceWave Sep 23 #58

Or laws Mountainguy Sep 23 #84

It's been a long-standing rule with every broker... calguy Sep 23 #61

Of course it is Cirsium Sep 23 #28

Of course the government has the responsibility to protect its citizens! PJMcK Sep 23 #29

That is why there are laws against drug possession and prostitution. MichMan Sep 23 #49

And two more examples of laws that shouldnt exist Mountainguy Sep 23 #55

No, they should not be allowed to "sell" themselves alarimer Sep 24 #95

Libertarian Underground is that way. RandomNumbers Sep 23 #62

Making it easier to access. The sure thing is losing. Historic NY Sep 23 #10

All the casinos are going broke!!! Johnny2X2X Sep 23 #14

There are people who will bet on an app who wouldn't go to an illegal bookie Ex Lurker Sep 23 #26

They're going broke, and like most MBA-run organizations MurrayDelph Sep 23 #66

Good perspective on the lure away from casinos Envirogal Sep 23 #68

Thanks, I forgot to mention slot machines MurrayDelph Sep 23 #76

Good stuff J2 and so true.... democratsruletheday Sep 23 #72

I loathe gambling...seen it fo too much damage Maeve Sep 23 #15

After reading this the only thing I could do was heave a big sigh. What else can you say? Biophilic Sep 23 #16

Slightly Dubious ProfessorGAC Sep 23 #19

It put the bookmakers out of business Trenzalore Sep 23 #22

Commercials for gambling apps frighten me ... Intractable Sep 23 #25

I saw an ad from an online sports betting site this weekend. MineralMan Sep 23 #27

Those micro bets used to be in house. Xolodno Sep 24 #88

I'm sorry, but anyone who... dchill Sep 23 #30

If you ever lived next door to a Bookie Captain Zero Sep 23 #31

The neglected part of the conversation Trenzalore Sep 23 #37

Pennsylvania Volunteer Fire Halls - famous for running Bingo games with huge payouts FakeNoose Sep 23 #45

Bingo is still a thing Trenzalore Sep 23 #56

They haven't made an Oldsmobile convertible for 30 years. MichMan Sep 23 #52

Because of conservative "values..." Grins Sep 23 #32

Exactly! This happened with "riverboat gambling" Envirogal Sep 23 #42

One of my parents lost a lot of money 50 years ago. Jacson6 Sep 23 #35

Sorry. Yeah, my dad was in it big. When he passed away, I got a call from a Las Vegas casino telling me my dad Silent Type Sep 23 #48

Exactly what I do!! Grins Sep 25 #112

Before there was anything called "Sports Gambling" that was legal Liberal In Texas Sep 23 #38

Gosh! Who could possibly have predicted this!? --:sarcasm: n/t TygrBright Sep 23 #39

I'm pretty much out on all vice laws, sorry. TheKentuckian Sep 23 #40

Same here. Oopsie Daisy Sep 23 #47

I kind of agree ecstatic Sep 23 #75

I for one am sick of the freaking advertising Pas-de-Calais Sep 23 #41

And just a small amount of common sense would make one realize RandomNumbers Sep 23 #69

Even worse political gambling angrychair Sep 23 #43

I've never even bought a lottery ticket. 3catwoman3 Sep 23 #44

Here in the state of MO, there's an initiative to legalize sports betting... SWBTATTReg Sep 23 #46

Yes, whatever the scam, it's always about "The Children" . . . . hatrack Sep 23 #71

I know men in their 20s who are highly susceptible for developing gambling addictions. NCDem47 Sep 23 #54

Sure...but thats already illegal Mountainguy Sep 23 #57

Legalized sports gambling causes an increase in domestic violence. Diamond_Dog Sep 23 #59

Gambling used to be sinful. Now it's tax revenue so it's ok. keithbvadu2 Sep 23 #63

sure Mountainguy Sep 24 #105

Legalized gambling everywhere is essentially a "poor tax" Happy Hoosier Sep 23 #64

I'd like to take a deeper dive into that data set. Xolodno Sep 24 #87

People used to have to go to Vegas or bet on horse racing if they wanted to gamble MichMan Sep 24 #101

And water is wet . . . hawkeye21 Sep 24 #92

I agree. alarimer Sep 24 #93

One time I allowed myself to have fun in Atlantic City. Arne Sep 24 #102