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Self Esteem

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81. I think Harris is better positioned, yes.

Sat Oct 12, 2024, 02:35 PM

Oct 12

But just pointing to crowds means nothing. Hillary never struggled packing arenas and large venues in 2016. She always had big crowds.

My point is that focusing too much on crowd size is misguided because it doesn't always equal victory. Hillary speaking to 100,000 people in Philadelphia the night before the 2016 election won her zilch. She didn't even carry the state.

Meanwhile, Biden's final Philadelphia rally is in front of a few thousand and he wins.

That was my point.

I'll also say that Republicans are way more united around Trump today than they were eight years ago. Republicans were not energized by Trump in 2016. I know a few Republicans who HATED Trump in 2016 and now openly support him.

It also explains why he did better in nearly every battle ground percentage wise than four years earlier despite losing. Like, Trump had a larger share of the vote in Arizona four years ago compared to 2016.

So, while enthusiasm is back up for Democrats since Biden dropped out, it's still higher for Republicans than 2016 and why this race is so close.

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ANYONE concerned about the shifting polls needs to listen to Keith Olbermann today... [View all] Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 OP

Have no doubt. Joinfortmill Oct 11 #1

Stuart Rosenberg warned this was going to happen displacedvermoter Oct 11 #2

"as his mind wanders around like a roomba" PedroXimenez Oct 11 #3

Keith DOES have a way with words. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #8

that *was* funny when he said that. made me chuckle orleans Oct 11 #34

ROFL! Troomba! Ocelot II Oct 11 #36

Kick and big rec. GoCubsGo Oct 11 #4

My son keeps telling me that I stupidly have faith in things arlyellowdog Oct 11 #5

Yes, we sure do not answer our phones. As it is I get over 100 emails a day, and at least 20 texts a day PatrickforB Oct 11 #45

Perhaps Troomba is setting a case for how could he lose as KewlKat Oct 11 #6

That's exactly what Olberman implies Farmer-Rick Oct 11 #41

I don't have 46 minutes to watch a video. When Democrats send out the doc03 Oct 11 #7

The beauty of Keith's "video's" is that you have no need to watch them. In fact, that would be useless as he Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #9

"When Democrats send out the big guns like Obama Clinton...their internal polls are not looking good" BumRushDaShow Oct 11 #26

Why wouldn't they send out the big guns? displacedvermoter Oct 11 #30

After every election we hear that we knew we would win or lose from the doc03 Oct 11 #37

Soooo Farmer-Rick Oct 11 #44

I think their point is that one is leading to the other. Self Esteem Oct 11 #53

That is exactly it especially among young African Americans and JohnSJ Oct 11 #76

There was no lack of enthusiasm at her AZ rally last night. CrispyQ Oct 11 #55

It is hard to judge the state of the campaign doc03 Oct 11 #57

I think people memory-hole 2016. Self Esteem Oct 11 #58

We'll have to agree to disagree. ;-D CrispyQ Oct 12 #80

I think Harris is better positioned, yes. Self Esteem Oct 12 #81

Thank you for stating it so I didn't have to. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #61

" I think we're gonna stomp that orange fucker into the ground." babylonsister Oct 11 #78

They bdamomma Oct 11 #32

The "big guns" always come out in the last stages of elections. Ocelot II Oct 11 #33

The big guns would be campaigning at this point for any national candidate JI7 Oct 11 #64

biden's circles lapfog_1 Oct 11 #10

I'm so glad you posted this link. House of Roberts Oct 11 #13

Trump describes the Space-X 1st stages kind of like someone from the 1920's seeing it for the first time. LiberalArkie Oct 11 #24

omg! that's got to be what he was rambling about -- i don't think i ever heard of those little get togethers orleans Oct 11 #43

I am not worried about the averages Johnny2X2X Oct 11 #11

Qunnipiac being a few points to the right is a good sign for any Democrat. lees1975 Oct 11 #35

Why so? Johnny2X2X Oct 11 #38

As Olbermann said Farmer-Rick Oct 11 #49

Olbermann saying something isn't a concern doesn't make me feel better. nt LexVegas Oct 11 #12

Keith is one of the very few remaining TRUE journalists. I trust him more than anyone else identifying as a journalist. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #18

Keith is political commentator not a journalist, only "journalism" he's done was sports related krawhitham Oct 11 #47

Here ya go. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #65

Megyn Kelly...she IS a journalist. LexVegas Oct 11 #69

At this time....................... Lovie777 Oct 11 #14

I don't take the polls too seriously PatSeg Oct 11 #15

Yeah, I got a feeling the polls are off Farmer-Rick Oct 11 #50

About not taking bdamomma Oct 11 #56

An interesting one with good info. lindysalsagal Oct 11 #16

FYI: he starts talking about the polls at around the 13:45 mark. Wednesdays Oct 11 #17

Thank you Wednesdays. Many will appreciate that info that I neglected. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #19

From the many that don't have time to listen to the entire audio, thank you. GoodRaisin Oct 11 #62

Yes, I was negligent. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #66

Well, guess we all forget stuff sometimes. GoodRaisin Oct 11 #71

List of right-leaning rigged polls: lindysalsagal Oct 11 #20

Thank you for this extensive list. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #22

And these are the polls he'll tell his followers about after he loses again KS Toronado Oct 11 #48

That is EXACTLY what is going to happen WHEN he loses. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #60

Thanks bdamomma Oct 11 #21

As I see more tsf signs going up in my neighborhood, I'm worrying again. louis-t Oct 11 #23

I myself, don't listen, read or anything otherwise, look at the polls, they're useless IMO, MarineCombatEngineer Oct 11 #25

I've been thinking this for awhile now. ananda Oct 11 #27

Anyone ever read "How to Lie with Statistics," by Darrell Huff? SheltieLover Oct 11 #28

I never look at the polls. sheshe2 Oct 11 #29

Keith Olbermann five nights a week! Betsy Ross Oct 11 #31

I do exactly the very same thing. Mr. Evil Oct 11 #42

The one from a couple days ago, talking about his lunch with Joe Biden, was fantastic. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #67

KNR for KO, as always. niyad Oct 11 #39

Good post. Thanks for this. lees1975 Oct 11 #40

Keep fighting and ignore the polls Sea A Chell Oct 11 #46

Anyone Concerned About Polls Should Donate, Volunteer and GOTV Aepps22 Oct 11 #51

I wish she'd stop saying, "It's going to be close!" Iwasthere Oct 11 #52

She's saying it because that's what they believe. Self Esteem Oct 11 #54

Most want to be a part of the BIG BLUE WAVE, to just be a part of history Iwasthere Oct 11 #74

She's not going to lie about the state of the race. Self Esteem Oct 11 #75

I have to disagree. Ferrets are Cool Oct 11 #68

But what if it is? Polybius Oct 11 #73

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Pizza, Pizza here!! GP6971 Oct 11 #63

Without listening to all of that, what is Keith predicting? Polybius Oct 11 #70

I love Keith but he's not known for prognosticating. kerry-is-my-prez Oct 11 #72

He's a good rah-rah type. Self Esteem Oct 11 #77

TY & KO! Cha Oct 11 #79