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hamsterjill

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166. Has he actually won the popular vote?

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:09 PM

Nov 8

Last I heard, they were still counting and there was a chance that it would actually be Harris.

I haven’t kept up in all honesty because no one will care now. But I care.

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I think he stole it. [View all] Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 7 OP

I agree 1000% Meadowoak Nov 7 #1

Vice President Harris disagrees. If she even hinted this, I'd be on board with this. jimfields33 Nov 7 #28

Three things make me suspicious and they all came out of the mouths of Trump or his MAGA supporters BEFORE Nov. 5 Jit423 Nov 7 #79

That whole, We have a secret, thing really freaked me out wintemark Nov 8 #84

Me too. calimary Nov 8 #86

yes. the whole media is saying dem johnnyfins Nov 8 #207

Yes, support for Dem ticket could be low ... krkaufman Nov 8 #236

And Russian interference getting voting sites shut down. ananda Nov 8 #243

...hmmm...She's not gonna say anything Blue_Roses Nov 8 #82

He's already unhinged... atreides1 Nov 8 #206

She is the last person who could say something - TBF Nov 8 #91

You're that easy? dpibel Nov 8 #105

I'm with her...still... COL Mustard Nov 8 #174

If investigators are working she needs to stay quiet cpamomfromtexas Nov 8 #198

I agree also. peachpit24 Nov 7 #33

Will be??????????? AZ8theist Nov 7 #36

Yeah he bdamomma Nov 8 #143

Trump will be carried out of the White House and replaced with JD Vance h2ebits Nov 8 #190

Why didn't Democrats protect the votes, why didn't they set up some infrastructure to ensure that republicans Escurumbele Nov 7 #50

"So ... it is Democrats fault for not protecting it" TBF Nov 8 #85

Probably because we don't have many TRULY devious thinkers on our side. calimary Nov 8 #119

"...pushing back on federal authorities' decades-long practice of watching for violations of federal voting laws." Babajida Nov 8 #123

It does not matter who the votes are for Lokee11 Nov 8 #239

Count Me In Mr.Bee Nov 8 #80

Yep. I agree 10,000 percent Charging Triceratops Nov 8 #202

Explain how there was so much support for johnnyfins Nov 8 #234

I believe the fix was in from the start vankuria Nov 8 #222

And they did it DiverDave Nov 8 #235

I think so too Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #2

It was his way of saying, orange jar Nov 7 #7

IIRC, he used the exact word "fixed." Sogo Nov 7 #11

Or you could get the evidence quoted correctly. Igel Nov 7 #18

He also said he would be a dictator on day 1. Bluethroughu Nov 7 #38

No bdamomma Nov 8 #144

Yes, because we know Trump has whathehell Nov 8 #156

Lie, cheat and steal CountAllVotes Nov 7 #3

I Am Beginning To Tend To Agree SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #4

I agree re: 2004 Sparkly Nov 7 #10

I agree BluenFLA Nov 7 #5

Mail-in voters who checked (if they tell the truth) on X: Justice matters. Nov 7 #51

Just a suggestion bdamomma Nov 8 #148

Maybe fewer people voted? Let the States show their numbers. oldsoftie Nov 8 #175

What if the numbers were tampered with without anyone being able to notice? Justice matters. Nov 8 #178

Then we can no longer say 2020 wasnt rigged in the same manner oldsoftie Nov 8 #197

I Expect AG Garland Will Start Investigating Sometime Next February nt SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #6

Oh no, it will be second Tuesday of next week. onecaliberal Nov 7 #24

I believe so too canetoad Nov 7 #8

No need to bribe sycophants. intheflow Nov 8 #176

I hear Sidney Powell is available to investigate! tritsofme Nov 7 #9

Its always very possible he stole it. hadEnuf Nov 7 #12

Voter registrations weren't up just for Democrats. Look at Florida. onenote Nov 7 #25

You make a good point about the desire for change True Dough Nov 8 #127

They'll be screened for mass deportation soon enuf! MrWowWow Nov 8 #133

Some of my friends were angry with Biden for running & not stepping aside. CrispyQ Nov 8 #154

Well, they were wrong. And now we live with it Joinfortmill Nov 8 #215

I totally agree with you. fierywoman Nov 7 #13

Not going down that road Baggies Nov 7 #14

It was misogyny & racism. CrispyQ Nov 8 #152

You nailed it perfectly. Doodley Nov 8 #187

Not even close Baggies Nov 8 #196

Well, here's a thread with an article offering a different POV. CrispyQ Nov 8 #208

Russia. Liberal In Texas Nov 7 #15

Wasn't "no proof, just speculation" a good description of the Trumpers election denial? onenote Nov 7 #30

Agree oldtime dfl_er Nov 7 #40

I've seen strange things recently that make me wonder lostnfound Nov 7 #16

Fail kwolf68 Nov 7 #17

R-I-I-I-G-H-T Disaffected Nov 7 #19

You don't have to agree Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 7 #26

And you have "eliminated all which is possible"? Disaffected Nov 7 #46

Of course not. Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #183

It's going to be rough alright. Disaffected Nov 8 #191

Exit polls are a rough check on the actual results. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 7 #53

An 18 yo new inner city latina voted for Trump LeftInTX Nov 7 #61

Musk was offering $250-500 a day. DiamondShark Nov 8 #131

Ah, Sherlock. summer_in_TX Nov 7 #64

We saw an incredible play in the last several months at our local Abolishinist Nov 7 #78

Have you gotten to see the two recent Netflix movies about Sherlock's younger sister, Enola Holmes? summer_in_TX Nov 8 #93

The guy who wrote that line also believed in goblins and fairies. EdmondDantes_ Nov 8 #102

Ok Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #188

stop trying to shame people oldtime dfl_er Nov 7 #41

I'm not trying to shame anyone. Disaffected Nov 7 #48

just curious but Skittles Nov 8 #103

Not really, Disaffected Nov 8 #108

LOL Skittles Nov 8 #110

Another non sequitur eh? Disaffected Nov 8 #112

LOL Skittles Nov 8 #117

"DONE HERE" Disaffected Nov 8 #163

not true oldtime dfl_er Nov 8 #115

Fine DET Nov 8 #124

No objection at all. Disaffected Nov 8 #164

extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence stopdiggin Nov 7 #57

It's fine to shame people that deserve shame Jk23 Nov 8 #177

so repukes do it and people vote for them Skittles Nov 8 #99

I'm getting you on this JustAnotherGen Nov 8 #180

Of course he (they) did. Faux pas Nov 7 #20

I'm curious about the quiet part..lack of posters, flags and other signs for TSF.. Deuxcents Nov 7 #21

It all showed up at the last minute here. LeftInTX Nov 7 #62

Maybe to celebrate but thru the 107 days with Kamala campaigning, there was little enthusiasm Deuxcents Nov 7 #76

It was probably that way on purpose LeftInTX Nov 8 #97

So voters bdamomma Nov 8 #146

Campaign workers. They were paid to leave LeftInTX Nov 8 #153

I just got back from an hourlong drive through upstate NY to my doc. Hellbound Hellhound Nov 8 #192

Something fishy going on sure as shit CanonRay Nov 7 #22

I totally agree. Island Blue Nov 7 #23

Does NC use ES&S Voting Machines ? delisen Nov 7 #66

I believe throughout the state Island Blue Nov 8 #142

tRump cheats at EVERYTHING. Blue Owl Nov 7 #27

And, put Billionaires, musk, & Vlad in the mx. Cha Nov 7 #43

I hate venturing into "CT" territory too -- but with tRump, how can ANYONE trust him? Blue Owl Nov 7 #69

Exactly and I ain't no "fool".. not about this Cha Nov 7 #74

THIS malaise Nov 8 #129

I am sure there was quite a bit of shenanigans in the swing states. valleyrogue Nov 7 #29

The bomb threats in black polling districts and originating from Russian servers for starters Cetacea Nov 8 #139

Two can keep a secret orangecrush Nov 7 #31

The only people who disagree with you SCantiGOP Nov 7 #32

+1. And every investigative reporter/writer wannabe. Obviously has been only a few days, but I hope this is Silent Type Nov 7 #42

+1. same here. stopdiggin Nov 7 #47

They are obviously all in on it on as well inwiththenew Nov 8 #89

The same people who LOST the election? Xoan Nov 8 #182

I never said DU knows something they dont. Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #193

the mass sms texts to black voters --- it's making me think there's more going on ecstatic Nov 7 #34

That's one way obnoxiousdrunk Nov 7 #35

baloney elleng Nov 7 #37

Yeah I keep thinking about that too Cha Nov 7 #39

My answer will remain the same stopdiggin Nov 7 #44

we aren't going to find any evidence, unless we look for it. Meadowoak Nov 7 #49

this has nothing to do with LOOKING stopdiggin Nov 7 #56

Oh please, I'm offering an opinion only. Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #230

he has always cheated oldtime dfl_er Nov 7 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author tenderfoot Nov 7 #52

Dominion sued Fox for defamation, and won $780M SledDriver Nov 7 #54

Dominion is not the problem rainy Nov 8 #134

After all the enthusiasm, I do find the huge drop off in Democratic votes suspicious. nt Susan Calvin Nov 7 #55

Okay, this is what bothers me. hamsterjill Nov 7 #58

that he won the popular vote smells the worst. mopinko Nov 8 #150

Has he actually won the popular vote? hamsterjill Nov 8 #166

no, he hasnt, and it may yet flip. mopinko Nov 8 #168

No. onecaliberal Nov 8 #201

Speculating wanie Nov 7 #59

So why didn't he in 2020? Polybius Nov 7 #60

He did try Blue Full Moon Nov 8 #141

I agree that SOMETHING was going on behind the scenes ailsagirl Nov 7 #63

I wondered about that too. Joinfortmill Nov 8 #216

Simply the absolute fact that they purged legal voters from the roles is cheating. Clouds Passing Nov 7 #65

Yes. Trump had 60 cases. He lost them all. Lawyers were disbarred. onenote Nov 7 #71

I didn't say Ds should do it. I just said Dump was allowed to. Clouds Passing Nov 7 #73

His suits involved burned ballot boxes, registration purges and threats of violence at polling places? tenderfoot Nov 8 #95

And how will those lawsuits change the results of the election onenote Nov 8 #100

We can say whatever we want here tenderfoot Nov 8 #104

I know people can say what they want. But I don't think it does DU much good to turn into a forum for election denial. onenote Nov 8 #106

DUers have a variety of opinions right or wrong tenderfoot Nov 8 #107

Exactly. And if I think someone's opinion is wrong, I state my opinion. onenote Nov 8 #113

Link to evidence that millions of "legal" voters were purged? onenote Nov 7 #75

... Clouds Passing Nov 8 #81

Can you point me to where any of those sources said the voters removed from the rolls were all "legal" voters onenote Nov 8 #101

I'd like to think that, but he improved in 90% of counties nation wide. D23MIURG23 Nov 7 #67

President Biden disagrees. TomSlick Nov 7 #68

He didn't steal it any more than Joe did in 2020. Harris lost. Trump won. GoYouPackersGo Nov 7 #70

Stole it? In every swing state? Darnell1972 Nov 7 #72

personal alarms going off here . AllaN01Bear Nov 7 #77

Greg Palast predicted Trump would steal it- again bikes and bunnies Nov 8 #83

The republicans alway tell you what they are going to do Blue Full Moon Nov 8 #87

Greg Palast weighs in plus Jarqui Nov 8 #88

I feel sure there was a degree of cheating by Trump and his supporters. summer_in_TX Nov 8 #90

"We don't need the votes" moondust Nov 8 #92

Strange theplayer Nov 8 #94

Your recollection is off. onenote Nov 8 #109

I think so too - there were the comments about secrets and already having the votes. TBF Nov 8 #96

So do I! Six117 Nov 8 #98

Remember Linda ladeewolf Nov 8 #111

And we had observers in the polling places. onenote Nov 8 #114

It is possible that some Linda ladeewolf Nov 8 #118

Votes are placed on a USB drive. Two witnesses LeftInTX Nov 8 #120

Are these USB drives checked Linda ladeewolf Nov 8 #138

Let me just say, Abolishinist Nov 8 #116

Not to stir the pot GigiLeigh Nov 8 #121

was this bdamomma Nov 8 #147

This crossed my mind but.. Ontheboundry Nov 8 #122

Yeah, sadly "It's the misogyny, stupid" Babajida Nov 8 #125

Addlepated? True Dough Nov 8 #128

I mean, he essentially did, but not in the way a lot of people are thinking. Karasu Nov 8 #126

They Gerrymandered a state wide election? Ontheboundry Nov 8 #132

No, I was just citing that... Karasu Nov 8 #136

100+ recs Sympthsical Nov 8 #130

You know, I've been here since the illegal invasion of Iraq Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #231

I suppose it's easier to feel this way Dorian Gray Nov 8 #135

I totally agree. I was talking to somebody about this the other day, and she insisted, No, no, raccoon Nov 8 #137

Skewed to favor republicans Blue Full Moon Nov 8 #140

Can't help but look at the results hannah Nov 8 #145

I'm thinkling Mr.Bee Nov 8 #149

It Is Pointless To Discuss SoCalDavidS Nov 8 #151

I hope we still feel that way Mr.Bee Nov 8 #157

It Won't Matter SoCalDavidS Nov 8 #160

No some are STILL fighting. Senator Bob Casey in PA for one. Tommymac Nov 8 #189

Russian hackers Wicked Blue Nov 8 #155

The software in the tabulators was changed under the noses of states. kimbutgar Nov 8 #158

I agree Mr.Bee Nov 8 #169

I think he did too. travelingthrulife Nov 8 #159

I can't put my finger on it but the results don't pass my smell test. Botany Nov 8 #161

It's amazing how many polls were wrong Beck23 Nov 8 #162

The GOP can't win without cheating suegeo Nov 8 #165

exactly Kali999 Nov 8 #172

I keep saying this and I will repeat it. Initech Nov 8 #167

Here's some food for thought ScratchCat Nov 8 #170

So, thousands are keeping this quiet? SCantiGOP Nov 8 #184

big crowds and low turnout southmost Nov 8 #171

My God we've sunk to THIS now?? "I have no proof" oldsoftie Nov 8 #173

At least obnoxiousdrunk Nov 8 #179

We've not sunk anywhere; Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #186

You are correct that it sounds like sour grapes Jose Garcia Nov 8 #181

I thought that we were the ones who did not engage is conspiracy theories. totodeinhere Nov 8 #185

We already know Trump cheats. He tried to cheat last election. We already know Russia would cheat. Doodley Nov 8 #194

Why aren't President Biden or Vice President Harris all over this? totodeinhere Nov 8 #203

It's not a crazy conspiracy theory. Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #229

As I was saying......... Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 8 #228

Let's not go there. It's disrespectful to the thousands and thousands of election officials and volunteers. nt LAS14 Nov 8 #195

Me too babsbunny Nov 8 #199

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 8 #200

I can't believe our Federal Government Mr.Bee Nov 8 #204

Well, there's this thing called "evidence". oldsoftie Nov 8 #213

If there is something there it's not going to walk up and tap us on the shoulder. hadEnuf Nov 18 #248

Nope, we lost support in deep blue states and red states that they had no reason to touch. nt Quixote1818 Nov 8 #205

Of course he did Cirsium Nov 8 #209

I just checked and my vote wasn't recorded yet in person Tribetime Nov 8 #210

Kicking visibility bdamomma Nov 8 #211

There has to be evidence oldmanlynn Nov 8 #212

Excellent, succinct, true! nt LAS14 Nov 8 #233

Something does seem off, no one was at his rallies, but then Joinfortmill Nov 8 #214

And the ones who were there were less than enthusiastic... ananda Nov 8 #244

Yup, there's more to learn. Joinfortmill Nov 8 #245

I do too. ElementaryPenguin Nov 8 #217

I couldn't agree more FoxNewsSucks Nov 8 #218

gawd Skittles Nov 8 #219

It's in his profile, for sure. More than enough motive, and all the means in the world. BurnDoubt Nov 8 #220

Concur stillspkg Nov 8 #221

You And Me Too! Aviation91 Nov 8 #223

The post begins: SCantiGOP Nov 8 #238

I agree 4catsmom Nov 8 #224

Agree 4catsmom Nov 8 #225

The bomb threats. luvallpeeps Nov 8 #226

With 4 years of help from Putin, Musk and a host of other bad actors dlk Nov 8 #227

He's been working with Russia forever. returnee Nov 8 #232

I belonged to an elections integrity group annielion Nov 8 #237

Thank You Mr.Bee Nov 8 #241

I think so too. dreamland Nov 8 #240

I guess the DNC is in on it too? Fish700 Nov 8 #242

Greg Palast Mr.Bee Nov 9 #246

US Intel Says Insider Threats Are 'Likely' During the Election Six117 Nov 10 #247