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femmocrat

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34. Oh heck... I forget it's open most of the time.

Sat Dec 15, 2012, 11:30 PM

Dec 2012

But I know what you mean. I feel like if my door is open, anyone is welcome to walk in and that makes me keep a lid on my "comments" at times.

My prayer: "Oh Lord, please keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth."

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All classroom doors should be retrofitted with locks. [View all] Barack_America Dec 2012 OP

The fire marshal may have some thoughts on that. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #1

How so? Barack_America Dec 2012 #2

For starters Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #11

Make them work like fire doors FarCenter Dec 2012 #14

Common practice in schools in my city and state Floyd_Gondolli Dec 2012 #30

That's against the fire code. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #70

considering he came in a window CreekDog Dec 2012 #98

Sigh. NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #4

The fact that there is even a debate about guns in this country Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #5

Yep, that really does sum it up well. And is so sad and pathetic. n/t RKP5637 Dec 2012 #18

Please tell me why my suggestion wouldn't work. Barack_America Dec 2012 #6

Every school I have worked at has that arrangement, locked on outside adigal Dec 2012 #12

That has also been my experience (n/t) Tom Ripley Dec 2012 #25

Ditto. Igel Dec 2012 #54

IIRC, Lanza broke a window to get in. freshwest Dec 2012 #99

The first classroom door he encountered was locked, so he moved on to the next. Barack_America Dec 2012 #100

It might have... But a stronger prevention would have been to disallow the possession of the gun. freshwest Dec 2012 #107

Sad that so many want to cut funds rwheeler31 Dec 2012 #3

He had guns. He could blow the door off the hinges. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #7

Gun control policy will take years. All classrooms can be locked within a month. Barack_America Dec 2012 #10

This suggestion is just an attempt to let the gun owners keep their toys... Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #19

The solution, if there is one, will be multi-dimensional. Barack_America Dec 2012 #24

I demand regulation of gun ownership. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #38

Nope. Completely fucking wrong. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #71

Then sign up to do it. Easier to say when it's not your ass facing these nutters, eh? Barack_America Dec 2012 #73

Doable with a shotgun and special ammunition or special breaching explosive charge ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #33

Bullets pass through doors like paper. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2012 #41

But do they open at that point? ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #53

"He could blow the doors off the hinges" Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #88

+1 Union Scribe Dec 2012 #104

I've always taught with my door open. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #8

Same here. I can't stand to have the door closed. femmocrat Dec 2012 #20

"stifling even in the winter,"-- We could save alot of money and carbon emissions by improving HVAC FarCenter Dec 2012 #23

Agree. A lot of schools have out-dated "boilers" for heating. femmocrat Dec 2012 #29

It's also a cover my ass thing proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #27

The coming video cameras will cover that FarCenter Dec 2012 #31

Sshhh. My students think they're already installed. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #40

Only if the Teachers Unions, at least in my area, whistler162 Dec 2012 #87

Oh heck... I forget it's open most of the time. femmocrat Dec 2012 #34

My first year teaching my principal told me to tape myself proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #39

Good advice, indeed. nt femmocrat Dec 2012 #45

Same here. But also, in my school the locks work exactly as the OP suggested. nt Pale Blue Dot Dec 2012 #77

It won't work... the devil Dec 2012 #9

Windows and door frames can be reinforced more easily than getting comprehensive gun control passed. Barack_America Dec 2012 #17

"I train students for lockdowns several times a year"... GReedDiamond Dec 2012 #22

Most districts probably have required lockdown drills. Igel Dec 2012 #56

How about, instead of turning our schools into locked-down concentration camps, Chorophyll Dec 2012 #13

Because students can't vote, so it's politically easier to do things to them instead. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #28

You tell me which is more likely to be accomplished. Barack_America Dec 2012 #32

I'm the mother of an only child. He's 11. My ONLY child. Chorophyll Dec 2012 #36

I'm the mother of a 2 year-old child. My ONLY child. Barack_America Dec 2012 #37

I'm in PA. badhair77 Dec 2012 #15

We did that at our college recently. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2012 #16

The guy shot the lock off the front door. nt MADem Dec 2012 #21

No, he shot out a pane of glass, either in the door or next to the door. FarCenter Dec 2012 #26

Well, whatever--he didn't ring the doorbell, that was my point. MADem Dec 2012 #42

Either turn them into wall or replace them with something like laminated Lexan FarCenter Dec 2012 #44

+1 Barack_America Dec 2012 #51

It shouldn't be rocket science; I think profiteering might get in the way. MADem Dec 2012 #92

My take bakpakr Dec 2012 #35

$$$$$$$$$ Gold Rush Dec 2012 #43

I support state and federal grants for improving school safety. Barack_America Dec 2012 #46

I support changing Race to the Top money to grants for school security. proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #49

True. Maybe the federal government could cancel a few bombs or something to help out the schools? femmocrat Dec 2012 #47

We can't even get the taxpayers to pay for decent textbooks. And now we're going to retrofit all Squinch Dec 2012 #63

You think that confiscating guns is more practical than installing locks? Barack_America Dec 2012 #64

Yes I do think so. And there are plenty of countries who have enacted effective Squinch Dec 2012 #72

It won't get passed with the current House we have. Jennicut Dec 2012 #83

Tax all guns and ammo annually and at point of sale XRubicon Dec 2012 #93

A lock didn't stop him from getting into the school. Ilsa Dec 2012 #48

Everywhere I've taught has had those. knitter4democracy Dec 2012 #50

It would be hard on the littlest kids Warpy Dec 2012 #52

Bathroom pass with a key on it. Barack_America Dec 2012 #55

How about, SheilaT Dec 2012 #57

You tell me what you think can be REALISTICALLY accomplished within 6 months. Barack_America Dec 2012 #60

Then let all of us who are totally outraged SheilaT Dec 2012 #69

There are schools with open floor plans. Igel Dec 2012 #58

We did that last year sorrybushisfromtexas Dec 2012 #59

It's good to have the conversation. Springslips Dec 2012 #61

For my young son? To comfort me. For millions of American schoolchildren? Barack_America Dec 2012 #62

Could be. Springslips Dec 2012 #89

what if a student killer ends up inside a classroom and starts shooting people ? JI7 Dec 2012 #65

Unfortunately, people would die. And that would be true if the door were locked or not. Barack_America Dec 2012 #66

Our classroom doors have locks already, and the teachers have the keys. kwassa Dec 2012 #67

I'm advocating the doors be locked whenever classes are in session. Barack_America Dec 2012 #68

A killer could still shoot through the doors kwassa Dec 2012 #91

Creating a bunker mentality cedes the argument to the NRA. WilliamPitt Dec 2012 #74

We can unlock the doors once comprehensive gun control gets passed. Barack_America Dec 2012 #75

Ban all guns in the street and have eyes in the sky to alert when any gun is in area graham4anything Dec 2012 #76

All the classrooms in my daughter's elemetary school Shadowflash Dec 2012 #78

Were the windows impossible to open? mainer Dec 2012 #79

They didn't have time. Barack_America Dec 2012 #90

They still have to come out to change classes, leave and come into school treestar Dec 2012 #80

A 9mm slug makes a one-size-fits-all key to most locks. You'd have to armor the doors & windows. leveymg Dec 2012 #81

A security system with a direct line to the police and fire Kingofalldems Dec 2012 #82

Thank you for thinking about solutions lunatica Dec 2012 #84

I look at the replies RegieRocker Dec 2012 #85

bullet-proof glass windows in all public school buildings could be a start and campus police zen_bohemian Dec 2012 #86

Would rather turn schools into prisons than have people give up their guns. geomon666 Dec 2012 #94

Hardly. Would rather protect the kids while we fight to improve gun control. Barack_America Dec 2012 #95

I thought it was a pretty good idea, BA. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #105

I went to school in the 1950s and 60s. All of our classroom doors MineralMan Dec 2012 #96

When I went to school, the teachers would prop the doors open to get a crossbreeze. MADem Dec 2012 #97

That's exactly what I'm advocating. Barack_America Dec 2012 #106

He had a key - it was an assult weapon. liberal N proud Dec 2012 #101

I always thought Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #102

My high school... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #103