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Catherina

(35,568 posts)
14. From what I understand she did. If he was on Fanapt, he was getting his prescription from an MD
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 12:31 PM
Dec 2012

I'm sure more will come out but this kid was not stable. He was talking a very strong drug, FDA-approved only for treating schizophrenia, called Fanapt that's on record for causing psychosis in many patients. One of it's listed possible side effects is "Mood or behavioral changes, or thoughts of hurting yourself or others."

Now let me tell you a little about Fanapt:


Fanapt: the rise and fall of an antipsychotic


Fanapt is born

Cooked up in the labs of Novartis Pharmaceuticals, Fanapt was intended as a replacement for Clozaril, a true blockbuster with, unfortunately, an expired patent. That meant Clozaril could be sold cheaply, generically, and Novartis could no longer command the high prices they had come to count on. Enter Fanapt.

Fanapt is dumped


During the development process, Novartis ran into problems. Whatever they found, it wasn’t good, because they basically tossed Fanapt into the garbage.

But another pharmaceutical company, Vanda, snatched it up and ran with it - all the way to the FDA.

Vanda goes to the FDA - and loses

In July 2008, the FDA issued a “not approvable” letter on the new drug. (In other words: no dice, Vanda.)


Vanda ignores the FDA - and wins


Vanda did none of those things. Instead, in November, they simply resubmitted the drug to the FDA, using leftover data from the original clinical trials.

It was such a jaw-dropping long shot that Vanda’s investors couldn’t get rid of stock fast enough. Stock prices fell below $1, and the company’s worth plummeted to less than cash on hand. At Vanda, there were layoffs and cutbacks, followed by a proxy fight trying to force Vanda to shut down, sell off its assets, and give any remaining money back to the shareholders.

Then, on May 6, 2009, stock analyst Adam Feuerstein observed something strange: “Hell froze over Wednesday night, right before a squadron of flying pigs took to the sky.”

For reasons only clear to the FDA, the new schizophrenia drug had been approved.

...

http://www.examiner.com/article/fanapt-the-rise-and-fall-of-an-antipsychotic



Since we can't highlight, I'm changing yellow to bold

Fanapt may cause aggressive/violent behavior (frequent).

This drug may also cause the following symptoms that are related to aggressive/violent behavior:

Hyperactivity (uncommon)
Impulse control problems (uncommon)
Mania (uncommon)
Restlessness (uncommon)


Medical Source Information
Yellow highlights indicate symptoms related to aggressive/violent behavior.

Psychiatric side effects including restlessness, aggression, and delusion have been reported frequently. Hostility, decreased libido, paranoia, anorgasmia, confusional state, mania, catatonia, mood swings, panic attack, obsessive-compulsive disorder, bulimia nervosa, delirium, polydipsia psychogenic, impulse-control disorder, and major depression have been reported infrequently.

...

http://doublecheckmd.com/EffectsDetail.do?dname=Fanapt&sid=164543&eid=2127



There is no amount of money that can guarantee treatment. You can lug your kid to all the top psychiatrists in your area but as long as Pharma owns our Healthcare system and Wall Street owns our Pharma, these are the results.

That kid probably didn't even realize he was killing children. For all we knew, he could have thought they were invaders from Mars come to destroy earth.

Capitalism, ain't it grand? Everyone needs to make a quick buck of someone and it's the little guys at the bottom, the weakest ones who pay the price. Adam Lanza too, despite his mother's money is one of the little guys at the bottom, who got pumped full of drugs instead of treated, cause that's what our industry does, it pumps our kids full of drugs to mask the symptoms instead of treating anything.

I feel immense sorrow for everyone involved, the children, the mother, the killer, the grieving parents... I have a feeling the mother did all she humanly could.

I hope no one here ever has to deal with this in their children because it can happen to any of us.
In every one of these mass shootings . . . DanM Dec 2012 #1
THIS. These crazy people need a goddamn Scarlet Letter! Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #8
I was diagnosed as bipolar in August, spent 3 weeks in a psych day program in Sept. Denninmi Dec 2012 #42
Why not? Lots of people want to paint me with one for being a gun owner. Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #43
Nice. Denninmi Dec 2012 #44
OK Atypical Liberal Dec 2012 #45
So you're saying the authorities should have had the power thucythucy Dec 2012 #10
Who gives a shit about the NRA anymore? laundry_queen Dec 2012 #49
I was responding to DanM, who thucythucy Dec 2012 #59
okay, I misunderstood. Sorry. laundry_queen Dec 2012 #63
I suggested this after the August shootings in College Station, TX sadbear Dec 2012 #12
Here's one I remember from the August shooting: sadbear Dec 2012 #13
So, the cops should have a list of mentally ill people in the area obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #27
What's next? ElbarDee Dec 2012 #29
Some of the suggestions are really disturbing obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #57
But they aren't allowed to track guns that are sold between individuals within state lines. Squinch Dec 2012 #55
This post makes no sense, what-so-ever. Fawke Em Dec 2012 #53
Our laws make it impossible for "these people" to be flagged in the NICS database, because Squinch Dec 2012 #54
What happens if the guardian of the child is just as whacked out as the kid is? NNN0LHI Dec 2012 #2
money was not an issue for this family. lapfog_1 Dec 2012 #3
Yes, and I read that dad makes a million dollars per year working for GE WI_DEM Dec 2012 #16
My kid got her nose pierced and is dating a pot head. I'm calling that hot line right now! Bucky Dec 2012 #4
This mother had the means to get him help Marrah_G Dec 2012 #5
The 60 minutes story leads me to believe she did Major Nikon Dec 2012 #9
From what I understand she did. If he was on Fanapt, he was getting his prescription from an MD Catherina Dec 2012 #14
yikes Marrah_G Dec 2012 #17
Here is something else very sad Catherina Dec 2012 #20
so well said No Compromise Dec 2012 #25
Great post malaise Dec 2012 #35
I second that this deserves its own thread. nt DeschutesRiver Dec 2012 #37
Thanks very much to the three of you Catherina Dec 2012 #47
interesting No Compromise Dec 2012 #18
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #23
media is starting to report on this No Compromise Dec 2012 #19
I hope they run with it and talk about it Catherina Dec 2012 #21
Your post should be its' own thread, Catherina. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #22
Feel free to steal and repost Catherina Dec 2012 #39
"if he was on Fanapt" - speculation on your part, or have you a source? muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #24
I watched his uncle state that in a video. n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #33
There are web rumours that man was lying about being the uncle muriel_volestrangler Dec 2012 #40
Interesting. Catherina Dec 2012 #46
Holy crap. That is terrifying. hifiguy Dec 2012 #28
I agree with you that they're sometimes necessary Catherina Dec 2012 #36
NO, the mother did NOT do all she humanly could. Dems to Win Dec 2012 #38
Like I'm going to take your screaming assertions over the testimony Catherina Dec 2012 #41
Simple fact: No guns in Lanza home, no dead bodies at Sandy Woods elementary school Dems to Win Dec 2012 #48
Damn you lol Catherina Dec 2012 #60
There is not credible source that he was on fanapt. Every page sources back to 1 place that has pull uppityperson Dec 2012 #62
I just met with a parent LWolf Dec 2012 #6
Doesn't work for adult children jeff47 Dec 2012 #7
Anyone with a child like AL shouldn't keep guns stockpiled thucythucy Dec 2012 #11
Anyone with a child like Adam Lanza shouldn't be taking him to firing ranges WI_DEM Dec 2012 #15
I would love to see his school records HockeyMom Dec 2012 #31
^^^^^Exactly!^^^^ Squinch Dec 2012 #52
Agree 100%. blm Dec 2012 #26
"Odd/different" people have always existed, BUT SoCalDem Dec 2012 #30
Mental illness is predictable. demosincebirth Dec 2012 #32
AND anyone with a child like him should either keep their dangerous toys locked up kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #34
Shoulda/woulda/coulda. She didn't. That's the reality of a lot of gun owners. AND these people have ancianita Dec 2012 #50
This family had enough money to get any mental health assistance they wanted. Squinch Dec 2012 #51
Not after he's 18. He's an adult, and a parent MineralMan Dec 2012 #56
But I mean that any government-provided free or accessible mental health service wouldn't have Squinch Dec 2012 #58
When you make a cool million Catherina Dec 2012 #61
The original post is saying that QUOTE: "any family with a child like Adam Lanza should be able to Squinch Dec 2012 #64
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