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KansDem

(28,498 posts)
3. I was thinking along the same lines
Tue Dec 18, 2012, 01:56 PM
Dec 2012
And how would you use your arms to stand up against the oppression?

When Nixon conspired with South Vietnam to abandon the peace talks LBJ was pursuing to end the Vietnam War, resulting in a war that lasted years longer and took many more American lives--a traitorous act: Where were the guns?

When Reagan conspired with Iran to hold onto the American hostages until after the 1980 elections, promising American military hardware in exchange for cash to send to Ollie North's death squads in Central America--a traitorous act: Where were the guns?

When the Supreme Court conspired to intervene in the 2000 elections by stopping the vote counting in Florida thereby giving the election to the loser Bush: Where were the guns?

When Bush sat and did nothing while we were attacked by his family friends and business partners, the Saudis: Where were the guns?

When Bush first said he saw the first attack on TV, then said it was reported to him, obviously lying: Where were the guns?

When Bush said he instructed his staff to respond to the attack even though the video shows no communication with CoS Andrew Card: Where were the guns?

When Bush and Cheney lied about Iraq and WMDs and invaded a country that had nothing to do with 9/11: Where were the guns?

When the Supreme Court granted "personhood" to corporations: Where were the guns?

When it was revealed that the US was engaging in torture: Where were the guns?

When Nancy Pelosi announced any investigation of Bush and Cheney for war crimes was "off the table:" Where were the guns?

When Wall Street and Big Bankers pulled swindles that crashed the world economy, then got Congress to give them money to bail them out: Where were the guns?

When American taxpayers financed huge CEO bonuses of corrupt bankers and Wall Street brokers: Where were the guns?

When the justice department refused to investigate and indict HSBC's money laundering of $880,000,000 of drug cartel and terrorist money: Where were the guns?

When voter suppression was undertaken by Republicans: Where were the guns?

And, when Social Security, which has nothing to do with the deficit, is "on the table" during deficit-reduction "compromising:" Where are the guns?

The NRA and its ilk are avid supporters of the Second Amendment, but only when it favors their political positions...
Tyranny: An organized effort to end slavery as a cherished tradition and way of life. Loudly Dec 2012 #1
After Kent State riqster Dec 2012 #2
I was thinking along the same lines KansDem Dec 2012 #3
It's a stupid, paranoid argument. The best control against bad gov't is voting. Bucky Dec 2012 #4
2A is about an individual's RKBA for self defense. Congress has all the authority it needs for the jody Dec 2012 #5
No, actually, it isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #8
Thanks for your opinion but DC v Heller defines the law and 2A is about individual self-defense. Get jody Dec 2012 #9
Until such a time as it's reviewed by a later Court decision. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #10
Dissents by Stevens & Breyer cite PA(1776) & VT(1777) constitutions that declare natural, inherent, jody Dec 2012 #11
You're extremely wrong Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #12
Read the PA & VT constitutions that use those words. Stevens acknowledged those constitutions. jody Dec 2012 #15
No, actually, it isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #18
What do you mean with your general statement "No, actually, it isn't"? nt jody Dec 2012 #19
"isn't indisputably an inalienable right". Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #20
I believe McDonald v. Chicago did incorporate the Second in the Fourteenth, see wikipedia jody Dec 2012 #22
I guess Marinedem Dec 2012 #6
That doesn't hold any water. DetlefK Dec 2012 #7
You make the assumption that elections will always be fair Xithras Dec 2012 #16
Morality and legality aren't the same. DetlefK Dec 2012 #21
That's how this country was formed, though. It's hard to reconcile. nt Romulox Dec 2012 #13
Don't forget reason #2 the coming race war. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #14
They need reminded that Red Dawn is not a documentary. n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #17
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