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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
21. Morality and legality aren't the same.
Wed Dec 19, 2012, 01:33 PM
Dec 2012

The problem with the argument I'm complaining about is, that it transforms the fight against oppression from a moral duty to a legal duty.

G.W.Bush's win in Florida was legal, because the court said so. That still doesn't make it right.
Tiller was murdered, based on the moral that he were a murderer. That still doesn't make it legal.

If you let laws decide for you what's moral and what's not, you give up your freedom to decide so yourself. The "brake-in-case-of-tyranny"-argument does exactly that. These people figure that they have a legal case to use armed insurrection if those ill-defined limits they set up are violated.
Who wastes time finding a moral reason to do something when you already have a legal reason to do something?
You are upholding law and order as it was intentioned!
Whereas, if you have the strongest of moral reasons to do something, you still have to consider the legal ramifications.



The fight against tyranny shouldn't be a matter of what the book says.
It should be a matter of what your heart, your conscience and your ethics say.

Tyranny: An organized effort to end slavery as a cherished tradition and way of life. Loudly Dec 2012 #1
After Kent State riqster Dec 2012 #2
I was thinking along the same lines KansDem Dec 2012 #3
It's a stupid, paranoid argument. The best control against bad gov't is voting. Bucky Dec 2012 #4
2A is about an individual's RKBA for self defense. Congress has all the authority it needs for the jody Dec 2012 #5
No, actually, it isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #8
Thanks for your opinion but DC v Heller defines the law and 2A is about individual self-defense. Get jody Dec 2012 #9
Until such a time as it's reviewed by a later Court decision. Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #10
Dissents by Stevens & Breyer cite PA(1776) & VT(1777) constitutions that declare natural, inherent, jody Dec 2012 #11
You're extremely wrong Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #12
Read the PA & VT constitutions that use those words. Stevens acknowledged those constitutions. jody Dec 2012 #15
No, actually, it isn't Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #18
What do you mean with your general statement "No, actually, it isn't"? nt jody Dec 2012 #19
"isn't indisputably an inalienable right". Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #20
I believe McDonald v. Chicago did incorporate the Second in the Fourteenth, see wikipedia jody Dec 2012 #22
I guess Marinedem Dec 2012 #6
That doesn't hold any water. DetlefK Dec 2012 #7
You make the assumption that elections will always be fair Xithras Dec 2012 #16
Morality and legality aren't the same. DetlefK Dec 2012 #21
That's how this country was formed, though. It's hard to reconcile. nt Romulox Dec 2012 #13
Don't forget reason #2 the coming race war. Ganja Ninja Dec 2012 #14
They need reminded that Red Dawn is not a documentary. n/t cynatnite Dec 2012 #17
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