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rrneck

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21. It's often said that guns are made to kill.
Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:22 PM
Dec 2012

Some people respond that the vast majority of them are not made to kill but to propel a projectile through a piece of paper or whatever. I disagree. Most firearms designs, if not all of them, began as weapons of war. Every gun ever made is certainly made to kill. But that's where the conversation usually stops. There is a very important question that lies below the reality of ballistics. Who are guns made to kill?

Unless you can look on the side of the receiver and read who that gun was made to kill or until they design a gun that will only shoot certain people under certain conditions, you can't prove intent or negligence.

The NRA is a lobbying organization like any other. Their objective is profit like any other. They have two feet in the public advocacy trough just like all the anti gun organizations. And the battle royale that gets played out in the media and on the internet keeps them all in business and sends rivers of money to Washington, which is kind of a problem. Suing them will just make them money and help all the associated single digit percenters become fraction of a single digit percenters.

Basis for the suit? Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #1
Looks like the OP is thinking marybourg Dec 2012 #2
Not viable or it would have been done well before this ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7
What is "viable" and what is not viable may be sea changing as we speak 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #11
" These are NOT "normal" circumstances, as we are experiencing a mass psychosis" ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12
Yes, those were my words, but your couldn't be wronger about what they "indicate" 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #13
Oh, please. Squinch Dec 2012 #29
So now you are a legal expert too? 99Forever Dec 2012 #16
No, pragmatic ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #17
Really? 99Forever Dec 2012 #19
Let history be your guide... ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #26
I already heard you. 99Forever Dec 2012 #28
My position is no different than other posters ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #38
So if ten posters say you are a dick... Whovian Dec 2012 #39
I believe Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #51
A little recent history concerning "ProgressiveProfessor" brentspeak Dec 2012 #30
Oh please... ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #37
Civil suit for damages, pain and suffering by families of victims 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #5
Well, Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #14
I doubt that the NRA could be included BlueStreak Dec 2012 #34
I agree with much of what you say 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #47
And there you go.... Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #52
I guess that is precisely WHY the munitions titans have legions of attorneys 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #53
What will work Turbineguy Dec 2012 #3
I don't quite get what you mean 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #6
People who are frightened to go to public places Turbineguy Dec 2012 #15
And you are saying that works for whom again? 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #43
I am making the connection Turbineguy Dec 2012 #50
What you say i sadly so true .. no contest on that one. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #54
Go read FRCP 23 and tell me what class you think you can get certified. Bake Dec 2012 #4
Please see 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #8
Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Bake Dec 2012 #9
Thanks for at least spelling it out, 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #10
In other words, our gun friends won't take you seriously or converse with you until you can Squinch Dec 2012 #31
I would note that it doesn't have to be a class action to cause the gun makers serious problems BlueStreak Dec 2012 #35
Go after the gun/clip/ammo manufacturers, distributors & retailers rucky Dec 2012 #18
See post #24. former9thward Dec 2012 #25
would you also support a class action suit TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #20
Sure, what the hell. I'll sign your petition. Iggo Dec 2012 #32
It's often said that guns are made to kill. rrneck Dec 2012 #21
would you also support a class action suit TheMoreYouKnow Dec 2012 #22
Sure, what the hell. I'll sign your petition. Iggo Dec 2012 #33
Who would have standing? slackmaster Dec 2012 #23
Surviving victims and families of those murdered in mass shootings. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #41
Munitions makers, distributors and sellers can't be sued. former9thward Dec 2012 #24
craptastic! rucky Dec 2012 #36
Gee, why am I not surprised. 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #42
The NRA isn't a manufacturer or seller of guns. Angleae Dec 2012 #44
Yup this has got to stop madokie Dec 2012 #27
Why not concentrate on one goal, preventing another mass-murder. jody Dec 2012 #40
It would be thrown out. Angleae Dec 2012 #45
Actually, "they" are protected by an act of Congress 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #46
I missed the line about "munitions industries" and was referring to the NRA itself. Angleae Dec 2012 #55
Personally, I feel it should be illegal to enable mass psycho killers with easy access to guns 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #56
How about we not ask stupid questions we know the answers to already?? -_- nt cecilfirefox Dec 2012 #48
Speaking of stupid questions, how about just using your backspace button? 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #49
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