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TPaine7

(4,286 posts)
Fri Dec 28, 2012, 12:57 PM Dec 2012

Right Wing Extremist LaPierre's Lunatic Plan for Police in Schools Debunked [View all]

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter on Wednesday slammed the National Rifle Association's proposal to put an armed guard {police officers} in every school in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting, calling it a "completely dumbass idea."

"I guess, you know, out of last week's bizarre press statement -- it wasn't a press conference -- I guess Mr. [Wayne] LaPierre would then say firefighters need to have armed guards go with them," Nutter said on MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports." I think it just shows that was a completely dumbass idea from the start with the announcement last week," he said.

Nutter was referring to the briefing held Friday by LaPierre, the NRA's vice president, in which he called for armed guards at every school in the wake of the Newtown tragedy. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun," LaPierre said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/26/michael-nutter-nra_n_2366214.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003


NRA Press Conference: Wayne LaPierre Calls For Armed Police Officers At Every School: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/21/nra-press-conference_n_2346382.html

I have seen the light; I now agree with Nutter and most of the people on DU. It's a "completely dumbass idea" to have police in schools to stop a mass shooting. That just brings more guns and violence into the situation.

To be consistent, however, we must admit that calling police into a situation with an active school shooter is not much better. After all, it's the same thing, just a little later. Why would it be OK to have more guns and violence on the scene 5 to 10 minutes later? If dialing 911 causes the same negative effect with just a few minutes delay, obviously that's wrong too.

I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but charging the shooter was violent. So the admin and teachers at the school took two bad, violent actions--they called in more violence and guns to the area and they personally attacked the shooter.

It's understandable to make mistakes under extreme pressure, but with training and indoctrination everyone should do better.

If there is an active shooter in a school, teachers and administrators should try to help students escape, but under no circumstances should they resort to violence of any kind. And calling police after the shooting starts is little better than having one on site. Police simply add more guns and violence to an already bad situation. The principal should have an emergency button in her office to shut down all the phones and jam cell phones to prevent this natural mistake that teachers and students alike are prone to make.

Actually, come to think of it, why should anyone dial 911 regarding gunshots? If you're in a mall and there's an active shooter, doesn't calling the police simply add more guns and violence to the situation? Isn't that the lunatic, right wing position of the fool at the head of the NRA?!

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.


We have to get beyond such right wing, cowboy thinking. No one should ever call the police to an active shooting or gun crime.

I feel so much better, now that I've seen the light.
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I can tell you're being sarcastic, but I am not sure what your point REALLY is here. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #1
No, no, no! I've repented and seen the light. You should welcome me into the fold, TPaine7 Dec 2012 #9
There IS no point. eom tledford Dec 2012 #79
LOL bongbong Dec 2012 #2
The recommendation was for POLICE OFFICERS at schools, according to HUFFINGTONPOST, TPaine7 Dec 2012 #3
crazy wayne's idea is like a donut company telling people to start throwing up their samsingh Dec 2012 #4
You're right, of course. Now if we could only stop those 911 calls. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #6
and people should just stop eating anything samsingh Dec 2012 #7
Hey, I agree with Nutter, don't you???! Are you one of those gun nuts or a good Democrat? nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #27
i'm a good Democrat. samsingh Dec 2012 #33
I highly recommend you stop the feeding nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #34
done after this post samsingh Dec 2012 #35
Why is it that some people can't read and understand anything that has to do with guns? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #5
Your attempt at whimsical hilarious snark and sarcasm failed. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #8
What snark?! What sarcasm?! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #10
Exactly. FAIL. PeaceNikki Dec 2012 #11
I'm guessing that anyone with greater than a 60 IQ wants nothing to do with the NRA. EOTE Dec 2012 #15
Exactly. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #17
More like the 1980s when they got political... bobclark86 Dec 2012 #59
It's ok. Some people just don't get logic. EOTE Dec 2012 #12
Confession is good for the soul, they say. There are logic classes you could take. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #13
You are sick, seriously. EOTE Dec 2012 #14
We need to keep guns out of our schools... I agree. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #16
Once again, satire takes intelligence. If I were you, I'd consider giving it up. EOTE Dec 2012 #19
Wow. You on the other hand, are quite impressive. Your logic is awesome. I love the way you TPaine7 Dec 2012 #24
Reasonable people shouldn't need to wonder why this is idiotic, and you said you agreed with him. EOTE Dec 2012 #29
Of course I agree with him. And since you disagree with me, you disagree with him. Therefore, I TPaine7 Dec 2012 #36
OK, then you're suggesting that calling 911 is a bad thing? EOTE Dec 2012 #39
If the emergency line saves lives, keep the line. It's cops in the school that's the problem, not TPaine7 Dec 2012 #43
So I guess your idiotic attempt at satire fell pretty flat, huh Corky? EOTE Dec 2012 #44
Does your argument make sense to you? Really? Wow you're smart!!! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #51
So you've kind of given up on even appearing to act intelligently, huh? EOTE Dec 2012 #54
Beside your brilliance, what chance did I have? nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #63
Considering your inability to consider more than one thought in a day, none. EOTE Dec 2012 #67
Great post bongbong Dec 2012 #18
Thanks. NT EOTE Dec 2012 #21
I admire your reading skills. First you couldn't tell the difference between "teacher" and "police" TPaine7 Dec 2012 #22
LOL bongbong Dec 2012 #28
Do you mean "Abby Normal" (obscure movie reference)? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #30
More laughs bongbong Dec 2012 #37
go debunk yourself it'll take less than a minute farminator3000 Dec 2012 #20
You rock! If having a police officer there when the shooting starts is bad, TPaine7 Dec 2012 #23
Not the brightest bulb, are you? EOTE Dec 2012 #38
"There is absolutely no doubt that having more guns around means that there is more gun violence." TPaine7 Dec 2012 #41
Responding to a situation where violence is eminent with a police force reduces incidences of EOTE Dec 2012 #42
So that would imply that the mere presence of a police officer "makes more gun violence much more TPaine7 Dec 2012 #55
Once again, you think that employing something .00001% of the time and 100% are equivalent. EOTE Dec 2012 #57
Wow, that's brilliant! TPaine7 Dec 2012 #61
Once again, you need to be able to process more than one thought a day. EOTE Dec 2012 #65
No. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #69
Ok, so you admit that the NRA and its followers are idiotic, bloodthirsty assholes. EOTE Dec 2012 #73
Ok, I'm bored now and you're too stupid to see that your BS fell apart and you had to resort to TPaine7 Dec 2012 #76
MY BS? You're the idiot who suggests NOT calling 911 when in mortal danger? EOTE Dec 2012 #77
And what BS are you referring to? You hate the NRA as much as I do. EOTE Dec 2012 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author TPaine7 Dec 2012 #71
Why stop at having an armed police officer in schools Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #25
Obviously police officers don't belong in schools, never mind armed teachers. We agree. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #26
Clearly kids must be trained in gun use too. EOTE Dec 2012 #31
this is a truly facile argument. unblock Dec 2012 #32
Per MSNBC, 1/3 of US Schools have armed security now. TPaine7 Dec 2012 #40
interestingly, your argument is nothing but sarcasm and mockery; yet you insist on evidence from me. unblock Dec 2012 #45
Which once again proves one should be required to be licensed to employ sarcasm. EOTE Dec 2012 #46
Hmmmm... "reportedly shot while walking into the school, according to reports" TPaine7 Dec 2012 #58
This thread went exactly how you expected it to, didn't it? EOTE Dec 2012 #47
ha! farminator3000 Dec 2012 #48
I'm Nightwing. I work on my own :p. NT EOTE Dec 2012 #49
Oh yes, that is true. Anyone reading what you wrote can tell that you are very smart indeed. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #50
Nah, I'm not that bright. Just much, much smarter than you. EOTE Dec 2012 #53
You're not that bright?!! What? TPaine7 Dec 2012 #64
Hey Corkie, in order to utilize satire, at one point you have to admit it's satire. EOTE Dec 2012 #66
I'm not Christ. No worship, please. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #70
Nope just so braindead that you believe that calling 911 when in danger should be avoided. NT EOTE Dec 2012 #75
If we shouldn't know who has guns in their homes, because that puts those people under threat from patrice Dec 2012 #52
Good observation! nt Pholus Dec 2012 #81
You're not yourself today. Here. Let me help you. Pholus Dec 2012 #56
Uh oh bongbong Dec 2012 #60
No, I hate that thing! Gun porn is so disgusting. nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #62
Only an idiot would suggest not calling 911 when lives are in danger. EOTE Dec 2012 #68
Of course, whereas a genius like you thinks that being around cops all day is "very dangerous" nt TPaine7 Dec 2012 #72
Not just dangerous, but a lot of cops are assholes. EOTE Dec 2012 #74
First time I've heard it called "porn." Pholus Dec 2012 #83
Kick. LOL. NT EOTE Dec 2012 #80
lapierre is ONE CRAZY FUCK. no sarcasm. fuck him and his gun lobby everyway possible. spanone Dec 2012 #82
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