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In reply to the discussion: Both China and India are Amazing Stories of Poverty Reduction... We Should Stop Demonizing Them [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)157. Tariffs is not isolationism. Otherwise China is isolationist. Do you get it yet?
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Both China and India are Amazing Stories of Poverty Reduction... We Should Stop Demonizing Them [View all]
BrentWil
Jan 2012
OP
their rates go down and ours go up - while our corporate masters get ever richer nt
msongs
Jan 2012
#1
Half the babies born in America are on WIC and more Americans have trouble finding food than Chinese
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#11
The jobs coming back are very few, and most are very low paying. Your argument is dying here.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#27
I call bullshit. Show us the new markets. Show us the jobs. Our standard of living is plummeting.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#57
Come live in Northeast Ohio, specifically from 1975-present, and you'll see why.
HughBeaumont
Jan 2012
#108
"Said poster is a free trade advocate" is not a personal attack, it is the truth.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#114
I'd lean toward saying good luck selling your crap with a 10,000 tariff.
TheKentuckian
Jan 2012
#158
By 2015 there won't be enough pro-offshoring people left in America to fill a phone booth.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#146
That is not true. When 8-hour workday was introduced demand for workers went up.
Fool Count
Jan 2012
#144
Let's get this straight. China and India are free to get out of poverty. They're NOT free
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#36
It's not a zero sum game. It's a negative sum game. If you disagree then please show
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#53
2 things wrong with your argument: 1) Job growth isn't matching population growth, and
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#73
Tariffs is not isolationism. Otherwise China is isolationist. Do you get it yet?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#157
People will and are making more then $1.25 a day.. this is just a measurement for people
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#170
The video talks about how 70% of India's child labourers are employed in agriculture.
Saving Hawaii
Jan 2012
#8
"Much of India used child labor on farms for centuries." Much of the world really.
Saving Hawaii
Jan 2012
#13
Maybe India should employ all their 9 year-olds as janitors like Newt Gingrich suggested.
Saving Hawaii
Jan 2012
#23
Or create a system in which they educate all their citizens... one or the other
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#29
I'm certain that if they give all their 9 year-olds janitorial jobs, they'll all become millionaires
Saving Hawaii
Jan 2012
#44
I'm sure pro-offshoring free traders will find a way to offshore janitorial work while promising us
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#38
Your point? How about reality. Reality is, we are encouraging slavery by offshoring jobs.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#33
Did you really just cite Mises? I'll respond in full tomorrow, but I need to get to sleep. /nt
Saving Hawaii
Jan 2012
#43
Trade hurts us more than it helps us. We lose more jobs than we bring in. It's a negative sum game.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#28
Would our country have been better if New York couldn't freely trade with New Jersey?
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#41
Free movement of labor is also an important goal, and something to work for NT
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#71
You will never get an expanding middle class as long as we outsource jobs. So...
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#163
OMFG I am weak from laughing so hard. That was unbelievably, hilariously harsh.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#86
But we import far more from these countries than we export -- even at their cheap labor prices.
JDPriestly
Jan 2012
#93
You said, "We don't have to keep demonizing other societies that "take our jobs.""
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#31
Your arguments are sheer delusion. Especially the "win-win" part. It's been all LOSS for America.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#66
All the education in the world isn't going to trump "Cheap" in the eyes of a CEO.
HughBeaumont
Jan 2012
#98
The numbers giving or those moving from living on less then $1.25 a day to more then $1.25 a day NT
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#30
You totally didn't read the link. I showed IN DETAIL that we're literally KILLING the third world
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#47
We are killing them, besides for the fact a lot of them are now living off of more then $1.25 a day
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#50
Yeah, because China was much better off in 1945.. wait, I mean 1929.... wait I mean 1890... wait...
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#64
So you're saying the people in China deserve to suffer because of these political things?
treestar
Jan 2012
#102
You still, still don't get it. We lose far more jobs than we gain from trade. Why do you deny this?
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#119
How about, "Your arguments are the same that we hear from the US Chamber of Commerce"
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#59
How about, I like less people in the World living off less then $1.25 a day...
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#62
You're wrong for the 100th time. Jobs move out of the USA more than they are created.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#81
Brent is finding out the hard way that nobody's buying that "offshoring = win for America" bullshit
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#84
China's population will peak and start to shrink due to their disregard for pollution in an attempt
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2012
#74
Sorry this thread didn't go the way you planned. It happens to me too, sometimes!
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#88
Well said. "It should be possible to alleviate the poverty in India and China without increasing it
pampango
Jan 2012
#115
Not really, the third world countries are getting a taste of what we did in the early 20th century
treestar
Jan 2012
#165
Nonsense links? Show which links were nonsense. You can't. You absolutely cannot do that.
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#141
You have a unique talent for twisting another person's words to create a straw man.
AdHocSolver
Jan 2012
#148
You are comparing the results of economic reforms done by a democracy to American Slavery...
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#154
I am also acquainted with an Indian family living in the US. Very nice people, very intelligent...
BrentWil
Jan 2012
#155
Isn't the OP basically praising a return to the Laissez-Faire Capitalism of the late 1800s?
Leopolds Ghost
Jan 2012
#139
You are praising the elimination of extreme poverty at the expense of American workers
Zalatix
Jan 2012
#145