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limpyhobbler

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102. With 283 votes in the House, NDAA was not veto proof.

Thu Jan 26, 2012, 11:13 AM

Jan 2012

290 would be veto proof. There were 14 not voting, so depending how those 14 divided, that would have determined the outcome as far as overriding a veto, assuming nobody else switched sides or was absent.

It was certainly no sure thing that it was veto-proof.

just FYI.

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also, Paul is dead. librechik Jan 2012 #1

Yeah, I would've found *any* other way to say that. Robb Jan 2012 #2

This is such ridiculous nonsense. TheWraith Jan 2012 #3

maybe because Obama said so straight up in the SOTU hfojvt Jan 2012 #56

No, he didn't. TheWraith Jan 2012 #67

here's what he said hfojvt Jan 2012 #76

The President's statement to "rein in long-term costs" applies only to Medicare and Medicaid. Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #88

it's not separated by much - a simple comma hfojvt Jan 2012 #104

and different verbs. n/t Bolo Boffin Jan 2012 #106

Agreed: "rein in" & "strengthen" patrice Jan 2012 #113

Thank you, good clarification flamingdem Jan 2012 #126

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In his recap of the ACA debate last year, Bernie Sanders himself said that Medicare NEEDS reforms, patrice Jan 2012 #114

Couldn't "long term costs" more likely refer to administrative costs which are MORE long-term than patrice Jan 2012 #112

He also said, "That's why our health care law relies on a reformed private market, fasttense Jan 2012 #91

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The only "reform" I am OK with is a move to single payer. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #122

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Have your read HR 676 Expanded & Improved Medicare for All yet? patrice Jan 2012 #125

Exactly. How about working with Sanders on reform instead. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #27

He already did. Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #36

Well, then go ahead and let the GOP do it by themselves by voting for the GOP candidate. (sarc) nanabugg Jan 2012 #61

What does that even mean? arcane1 Jan 2012 #62

I wonder whose side Obama is on? SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #92

Agree with part of this & I will add: Repukes fight reform because it can be directed at patrice Jan 2012 #117

Uh oh, Bernie gratuitous Jan 2012 #5

OBAMA BAD, BAD, BAD!! HE GON' PUT BERNIE "UNDER THE BUS!" Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #19

I didn't say Obama was going to do it gratuitous Jan 2012 #24

That's a tired ass line that gets uttered around here. The Obama Bad meme is prominent Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #44

But even tireder and assier gratuitous Jan 2012 #53

Nah, people don't stifle criticism. They stifle IDIOCY!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #59

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How about we put off the whole "under the bus" stuff until he is actually put there? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #29

Oh, but of course! gratuitous Jan 2012 #35

With that kind of melodrama, you missed your true calling. stevenleser Jan 2012 #82

I thought Obama said "strengthen" not "reform". tabatha Jan 2012 #6

He has used "strengthen" in the past -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2012 #9

"Strengthen" RobinA Jan 2012 #105

Working with Republicans to "strengthen" Social Security et al Art_from_Ark Jan 2012 #123

Here is what he said. Life Long Dem Jan 2012 #34

I wondered about this comment: SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #7

Yeah I heard that too zipplewrath Jan 2012 #12

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"Rely" is the key word BadgerKid Jan 2012 #16

! So when you turn 65 suddenly a government program can do better? anAustralianobserver Jan 2012 #63

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I know, this was a straightforward guided missile aimed at Repug talking points. stevenleser Jan 2012 #83

Yes, but wasn't there news made here that he now thinks that a government plan option anAustralianobserver Jan 2012 #87

Yes and I do recall that during the health care debate, when under pressure from the left to keep limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #101

That's what I thought. I guess people like Adam Green will draw attention to this. anAustralianobserver Jan 2012 #119

I see.. so he said this to prove to Republicans SomethingFishy Jan 2012 #110

No. He's not talking to Republicans. He is not saying what you are suggesting at all. stevenleser Jan 2012 #120

"reformed private market" Who does he thinks he's kidding here" SammyWinstonJack Jan 2012 #96

He's definitely not liberal nor progressive fascisthunter Jan 2012 #97

Senator Sanders is fiercely protective of the social safety net and his comments are welcomed. proverbialwisdom Jan 2012 #8

There ProSense Jan 2012 #11

His appointees to the Simpson Boyles committee give one pause zipplewrath Jan 2012 #15

Actually, ProSense Jan 2012 #17

So was his insistence on a public option zipplewrath Jan 2012 #21

Hey ProSense Jan 2012 #23

No zipplewrath Jan 2012 #41

Why ProSense Jan 2012 #48

Because it supports the point zipplewrath Jan 2012 #51

Great ProSense Jan 2012 #55

He couldn't veto NDAA it was veto-proof. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #31

I checked the constitution zipplewrath Jan 2012 #39

Evidently you don't know what compromise is. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #54

What's the difference between compromise and capitulation? zipplewrath Jan 2012 #115

I think theymeant veto proof as in a veto would have done more harm than good cstanleytech Jan 2012 #66

All of that is right and there is still more that would have made the veto worse... stevenleser Jan 2012 #84

With 283 votes in the House, NDAA was not veto proof. limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #102

Actually, Obama has directly linked Social Security to the deficit suffragette Jan 2012 #127

This has been an issue since Mr. Obama's first SOTU TBF Jan 2012 #14

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Damn that Bernie Sanders! Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #26

nope. he isn't. the people using his statement as another excuse to hop on the Breathless Anger dionysus Jan 2012 #29

and he is a Right Wing Troll bvar22 Jan 2012 #32

that *is* an impressive strawman you just burned down... dionysus Jan 2012 #52

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mixed with water and peas no doubt!1!1 dionysus Jan 2012 #40

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If Senator Sanders says he smells a rat then there is a rat. n/t leeroysphitz Jan 2012 #58

except he didn't say anything like that.. but you go ahead and be suspicious if it cheers you dionysus Jan 2012 #60

Some of you do realize though that not "all" reform is bad? cstanleytech Jan 2012 #65

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Agreed and I am glad to see you agree we should do some reform as well. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #75

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No, sacred cows like Defense spending. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #121

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Agree there as well. cstanleytech Jan 2012 #90

THANKFULLY at least one office holder can read between the lines Raine Jan 2012 #68

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Don't worry. Obama will veto any cuts to entitlements. Just like he vetoed the NDAA. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #72

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