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In reply to the discussion: Tennessee Supreme Court Considers Whether Minor Is An Accomplice In Her Own Statutory Rape [View all]Sheldon Cooper
(3,724 posts)347. Lotta words, signifying not a lot
The dearly departed tater, and you (the newborn spud??) tripped himself up and this is why: a 14 year old can rob a store, steal a bike, even commit murder, and there are legal consequences because they are acts of commission. We can argue whether there should be adult level punishment handed out, but that's a topic for another day.
In most states, however, a 14 year old cannot consent to sex, especially with a 42-year old man, and therefore must not be punished for being raped. . There's nothing "icky" about this. It's really very clear. Some people have problems accepting that we have age of consent laws, and I find that puzzling.
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redqueen
Jan 2013
OP
Of course not. Like I said in my post, her actions should not have consequences.
Speck Tater
Jan 2013
#15
No, we aren't as stupid as you think we are --you're trying to make her victim status a strawman
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#67
so wtf-> "Heaven forbid she should be held accountable for doing something incredibly irresponsible"
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#92
A minor cannot legally choose to have sex. She lacks the mental capacity/maturity to consent.
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#278
most six year olds will often go along with anything grownups they know suggest, so it's their fault
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#8
That isn't wit. That is a sickening, desperate attempt to blame a CHILD for being raped.
redqueen
Jan 2013
#116
He's using sarcasm to suggest that the 14 year old girl is just as responsible in this situatiion as
EOTE
Jan 2013
#154
there is no double standard. we don't treat 14 year olds as legal adults because they are not.
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#290
there are all sorts of "enhancements" to penalties based on the nature of the crime. we have them
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#302
no you just "high fives" a rape apologist troll and gleaned some deep wisdom from his posts.
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#319
I recognize a really lame attempt to engage in a satirical reductio ad aburdem
geek tragedy
Jan 2013
#69
If you are going to be disingenuous, at least try and make it clever instead...
Spazito
Jan 2013
#58
She was the VICTIM and SHOULD NOT be prosecuted. I don't know how to make it clearer. nt
Speck Tater
Jan 2013
#68
nobody believes you, because your first post in this thread makes clear what you believe:
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#127
Absolutism and black-and-white thinking is a RW trait. Again, thank you for letting all of us
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#281
If you are thinking that being a rape apologist's water carrier is going to earn you
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#301
So you think that as a child ages, they should become LESS accountable for their actions?
EOTE
Jan 2013
#175
We appear to be in agreement that rape victims should not be prosecuted for being rape victims.
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#283
you posted a repugnant opinion and you know it, which is why you won't say it outright
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#71
Simply repeating the same thing over and over again does not, in fact, make it any more believable..
LanternWaste
Jan 2013
#192
For the love of god, why are you saying that this 14 year old girl 'chose'
Sheldon Cooper
Jan 2013
#198
Did your kids really fuck you up or something? I say that really hoping you
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#91
I guess we'll have to take your word for it. Was there a restraining order? I'm
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#128
No. Stop derailing. Go start a "Things 14 year olds should be punished for" thread if you want.
redqueen
Jan 2013
#147
Bullshit, you were trying to be cute by bringing up shoplifting and joy riding. The article is
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#149
I am betting that our friend has been accused, and possibly convicted, of
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#287
you would much rather teach a fuckin' 42 yr old his actions have no consequence and point finger
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#103
Oh, and just so you know, I totally think you are NOT a disgusting piece of crap.
EOTE
Jan 2013
#120
Hey! I said she is an INNOCENT VICTIM and the man is SCUM that needs to rot in jail.
Speck Tater
Jan 2013
#130
And I just said that you are NOT a disgusting, worthless piece of rape apologising filth.
EOTE
Jan 2013
#133
I like totally agree with you. That poster is NOT defending pedophilia, or insinuating that 14yo
idwiyo
Jan 2013
#140
On the other side, we charge 14 year old kids with murder in adult courts. Should one
appleannie1
Jan 2013
#2
On this subject, many DU'ers cannot pick a lane. How many times have so many DU'ers suggested that
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#34
i think it's very different between teens than it is between adults and teens, and most laws
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#54
It's the age that makes me ill. Guy's age implies he's close to a pedophile IMO. And the power thing
KittyWampus
Jan 2013
#61
initiated it? by making a phone call. OMG, she probably also wore a skirt. the dirty whore!
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#42
some seven or eight year olds "know full well" what sex is, and might even "flirt*" with adults
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#36
the OP has done nothing wrong but post an article that is documenting some disturbing news
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#188
Please stay away from children. They are not consenting when you think they are. nt.
NCTraveler
Jan 2013
#187
A minor cannot legally choose to have sex. She lacks the mental capacity/maturity to consent.
kestrel91316
Jan 2013
#289
Wait - isn't the premise of the statutory rape charge that a minor cannot consent?
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#5
If they say the minor can consent it is no longer rape unless the minor said no.
yellowcanine
Jan 2013
#35
A 42 y.o. man knows a hell of a lot more about exploiting power differentials, manipulation and
demmiblue
Jan 2013
#108
with mentalities like posts on this thread, it is no wonder that we live in a rape culture and still
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#141
To the jerkoff polluting this thread with their garbage. Fuck off. You're not being clever. nt
Guy Whitey Corngood
Jan 2013
#85
So many here just don't get that. And that tells us all we need to know about them.
Squinch
Jan 2013
#257
Logic fail. A better comparison would be if she were robbed. Should she be charged with that?
uppityperson
Jan 2013
#265
not with people much older than them, no. It varies, but the penalties are harsher when the age
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#165
Were adults involved in this other situation? If not, that's a big difference.
randome
Jan 2013
#169
The point about the Tennessee statutory rape charge is that it's less severe than a rape charge
muriel_volestrangler
Jan 2013
#191
This involves a 42 year old man. It is rape, End of discussion amongst reasonable people. nt
geek tragedy
Jan 2013
#100
This post was alerted on! Tick Tock! Update! The jury voted 6/0 to let the post stand.
ohiosmith
Jan 2013
#132
You are only ok with that because you have internalized the values of the rape culture we live in.
redqueen
Jan 2013
#190
Knowing about sex doesn't mean a 14 year old cannot be coerced by an adult to consent to sex.
Lone_Star_Dem
Jan 2013
#222
I do have a daughter actually, and obviously what I wrote came across wrong
Demo_Chris
Jan 2013
#242
So, I've got one question for those defending the grown up and further victimizing the CHILD
justiceischeap
Jan 2013
#177
The court is allowing this appeal to finally review and overturn this outdated law.
Lone_Star_Dem
Jan 2013
#227
She should not be prosecuted, ridiculous. The idea that she's a victim is absurd
LittleBlue
Jan 2013
#280
So if a 14 yr old CHILD calls you for sex you'd do it? Have sex with her? nt
justiceischeap
Jan 2013
#293
so you'd be fine with your 60 year old boss fucking your 13 yr old child? Is 12 okay too?
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#311
15 yr old force to marry 70 yr old. girl forced to marry rapist. ya, other countries does a lot of
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#321
that would be why once a woman has a baby the husband doesnt want sex anymore or
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#323
In some Chinese villages, they practiced cannibalism during the Revolution. I guess that makes
Squinch
Jan 2013
#326
it would be men with the "atta boy" shit. just like it is the men blaming this girl.
seabeyond
Jan 2013
#320
your opinion that it's okay for a 42 year old to have sex with a 14 year old?
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#328
you called it a "victimless crime", you said Japan it wouldn't be illegal and that...
CreekDog
Jan 2013
#331
so, are you arguing that there's no victim, but it still should be a crime? and that you disagree
bettyellen
Jan 2013
#336
Ugh. That is absolutely disgusting. She is a child, he is 42. She is a victim.
Squinch
Jan 2013
#325