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Silent3

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Sat Feb 2, 2013, 07:06 PM Feb 2013

70 lbs. down. Now I can rant about obnoxious fitness fanatics. [View all]

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Everything I have to say now is just as valid (or invalid) as it would have been 70 pounds ago. Before I started seriously working on my weight this past April, however, much of what I have to say would be too easily dismissed as "making excuses" or "defeatism". I had been fit for a very long span of time once before too, however, and I would have said many of the same things back then as I will say now, but when I've tried to say these things during my out-of-shape years, somehow any experience from my past, when I'd been fit and trim for eight years, didn't count.

Hear me now and believe me later, fitness fanatics, your experience of fun and exhilaration in exercise is not universal. Just because you love to "feel the burn" doesn't mean everyone else will (if only they'd give it a chance!). Not everyone who runs gets a "runner's high". Not everyone gets a big thrill out of lifting ten more pounds than they could lift last month (at least not a thrill that it exceeds the pleasure of a pint of Ben & Jerry's). Not everyone will feel like an exercise session is "my special time for myself".

For some of us, exercise and a healthy diet means unpleasant work. Worth the effort, but work. Drudgery even. For me the rewards of diet and exercise are in the results, not, by far, in the process that gets me there.

I'm all for trying to psych yourself up for a big effort, and for a sensible, non-fanatical form of positive thinking. I'm not, however, for the magical quasi-religious version of positive thinking, where people speak as if they're going to bend reality to their will by blowing sunshine out their asses, by the sheer power of determination combined with gross oversimplifications crafted into unctuous motivational slogans.



For example: I personally have to translate "Find something you love to do!" into "Find something you can tolerate". It helps for me to have something I'd rather do even less than my exercise too, so that exercise becomes a break, relatively speaking, from that other thing that's even less appealing. I've run into fitness fanatics so certain that there's a FUN! FUN! exercise option for everyone that if you don't agree there's something fun you'd like to do, then you must (in their eyes) simply be looking for an excuse not to exercise, and you must be deliberately setting yourself up for failure.

The most tolerable exercise I've found so far is walking -- fairly brisk walking, often getting up around an average speed of 4 mph for as long as two hours and change. The trade-off here is that for a given span of time, walking doesn't burn as many calories as jogging or running or many other exercises focused on calorie burning, but at least walking is the closest thing I've found to a pleasurable form of exercise. Walking certainly has its very pleasurable moments, particularly on a nice, sunny day, but it's still more on the side of hard work when you're putting up with bad weather and putting in more than 120 miles per month.

I managed 112 miles of walking in December before the weather got too bad for doing much walking in my favorite park. I've since done a little snowshoeing, but now most of my exercise is on indoor equipment, with a much lower pleasure/drudgery ratio there. I have to rely on the trick of exercise being a way of getting out of doing something I like doing even less, which is where having a gym at work comes in handy. Using the sort-of-elliptical-rider-like-thing at work counts as a break when compared to sitting at my desk. I have an elliptical rider at home, but using it seldom feels like a "break" from relaxing at home, so it's harder to motivate myself to use that conveniently located equipment.

I've wondered how widely applicable the common advice of going to the gym (or doing other exercise) with a friend might be. While I can see how some people might get something out of making exercise more social, it certainly wouldn't help me much. I can hardly be alone in that. Given many people's busy schedules, trying to coordinate exercise time with someone else sounds like a recipe for failure, an opportunity for bad excuses to pop up when your friends aren't available.

Further, I imagine a lot of the people who need to get into shape later in their lives were people like me who weren't in great shape when they were younger, who don't have strong, positive associations with exercise and team sports. Maybe for some of the enthusiastic fitness fanatics out there they find their fitness activities to be a recapturing of joyful memories from their youth. Some of us, however, are trying to get in shape without being reminded of what it was like when we were picked last for teams in gym class.

Some fitness fanatics have an obnoxious, Republican-like "we built that!" sense of their own glorious self-made achievements, one that admits little to no room for luck and fortuitous circumstance.

While I think I have a lot to be proud of in what I've accomplished over the past 9 1/2 months, I'll gladly admit to having some great advantages that certainly aren't due to any particular special virtue of mine.

One of the biggest advantages I have is that I've got a lot more free time than many other people: I work about six miles from home, so I don't use up a lot of my day commuting. I have no children, so I'm not spending time playing taxi driver or sitting through soccer practice. I've got a good paying job that nevertheless seldom keeps me in the office late or follows me home after hours.

When you add in extra time for changing, showering, going to and from the gym on top of 45 minute workouts and two hour walks, I've easily been spending 8-12 hours per week on exercise. I certainly wouldn't blame others for having a hard time trying to make that much time in their lives for getting fit. In fact, it was going from a mostly work-at-home job to a commuting job where I spent 1.5-2.5 hours/day stuck in my car, depending on traffic, that killed my first eight years span of staying fit. Over the course of a year "fuck it, I'm tired!" slowly won out over my commitment to fitness. Even once I was working close to home again, it took years (until just last year, in fact) for me to finally get sick of the weight I'd put on and get started working out again.

Now that weather has reduced my walking time, I've got a great advantage in working at a job that provides free membership to a health club in the same building, and where my boss doesn't mind me taking afternoon workout breaks when my fairly flexible schedule permits.

One dieting advantage I have: I'm not a big fan of heavy helpings of sauces, sandwich spreads and salad dressings. It's no sacrifice at all for me to say "hold the mayo". There's 100 calories or more saved right there by doing something that makes a sandwich taste better to me. I like this dish at Friday's called "Cajun Shrimp and Chicken Pasta", but I ask for 1/4 of the sauce (as well as substituting multigrain pasta and adding extra red bell pepper), and I love it that way. Big puddles of sauce at the bottom of a dish of pasta frankly disgust me. I like just enough sauce to slightly moisten pasta, and that's it.

I cringe to see the amount of salad dressing that many other people drown their salads in. I've decided not to bother with low calories dressings because I can get by with 100 calories or so of bleu cheese on a big salad and be perfectly content.

Another dieting advantage: I seem to be someone who gets a bit of an appetite suppression effect out of exercise. It's not that I'm never resisting cravings, not by far, but I'm seldom racked by hunger pangs either. (Sorry, ladies, from what I've read men are much more likely to benefit from this suppression effect than women.)

I'm doing just fine losing weight without adopting any particularly special or strict diet. No puritanical elimination of this or that, no all-organic, no low-carb, no gluten-free. I'm not spending a lot of time trying to find "superfoods" or other foods with this or that purported fat-burning, immune-boosting effect. I'm simply eating less overall, cutting out a lot of desserts I used to indulge in (but not all of them!), eating more vegetables and a little more fruit, making more of the carbs I eat whole grain, eating lean meats and a little more seafood. I certainly am not freaking out over GMOs, diet soda, or artificial additives. While I think we should all be a bit careful and wary about what goes into our food supply, I certainly do not buy into the hair-on-fire "OMG!111!1!1! TEH CORPORATIONS R FEEDING US POISON!1!!1!" histrionic freak out that's popular on DU.

I used to do the low-fat diet thing, during the first long span of fitness in my life, but this time around I've decided not to worry so much about fat, so long as I favor healthier fats. Not only have I lost a lot of weight this way, but I've got my cholesterol down to 133, with good HDL levels and low triglycerides, all while suffering much less from hunger pangs than I did on the low-fat diet.

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Congratulations! XemaSab Feb 2013 #1
Thanks. :) n/t Silent3 Feb 2013 #2
Excellent! And agree about fitness nazis elfin Feb 2013 #3
My main aerobic exercise for many years was a stationary bike... Silent3 Feb 2013 #7
I'm Pedaling as Hard as I Can, and Not Getting Anywhere AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #110
When I lived overseas I had no problems in losing weight. We walked everywhere. southernyankeebelle Feb 2013 #37
I just put in 6 miles on the B Calm Feb 2013 #4
I've got a bit of time until I can retire... Silent3 Feb 2013 #6
Congrats malaise Feb 2013 #5
Good job) also to the others posting, btw. we can do it Feb 2013 #8
Some of those more enjoyable (for some people) activities... Silent3 Feb 2013 #9
I can't imagine burning 50 calories dancing, but I have friends who dance for hours! we can do it Feb 2013 #11
It's possible I might like yoga, but it goes against one of my coping strategies... Silent3 Feb 2013 #53
I escape while doing yoga by tuning in to my body sensations. For the elliptical diane in sf Feb 2013 #60
I'd guess that getting to where you can "escape" that way... Silent3 Feb 2013 #107
It does take concentration (I have an teacher for my excellent beginner's class) we can do it Feb 2013 #113
I love yoga, I put on a routine on the lap top, have a TV or Kid in the backround and go to town. glowing Feb 2013 #82
I totally agree about relief for lower back and hips, that's one reason I started yoga. we can do it Feb 2013 #114
Throw Your Body at the Music AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #91
I have no doubt! we can do it Feb 2013 #115
Well written, and thanks for the insight! bhikkhu Feb 2013 #10
Congratulations. And walking is great! eallen Feb 2013 #12
I've occasionally thrown in a few short bursts of running... Silent3 Feb 2013 #50
Bicycling is Easier on the Knees than Walking/Running AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #111
Good Job - Thanks For Sharing cantbeserious Feb 2013 #13
I think you could have made your point without insulting nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #14
I have nothing against people who enjoy exercise. Silent3 Feb 2013 #15
With all due respect, when you've been here for as many years as I have... Hekate Feb 2013 #18
And how does being as harsh and judgmental change the tone? nobodyspecial Feb 2013 #22
I'm 5'1 and 170 lbs. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #45
Agree. October Feb 2013 #98
Let me add my heartfelt congratulations and understanding before the fitness nazis show up Hekate Feb 2013 #16
Other than one person practically sneering... Silent3 Feb 2013 #61
Fantastic Hekate Feb 2013 #87
read the whole post... well written, thank you.... trailmonkee Feb 2013 #17
Thanks for sharing, and congratulations on your results! distantearlywarning Feb 2013 #19
Congratulations! kurtzapril4 Feb 2013 #20
My biggest exercise high... Silent3 Feb 2013 #57
Exactly right! n/t kurtzapril4 Feb 2013 #72
That Might Change AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #112
Do you enjoy reading? tavernier Feb 2013 #21
So far I've mostly been listening to music Silent3 Feb 2013 #51
I used to listen to a lot of good podcasts while exercising tabbycat31 Feb 2013 #141
Sorry, couldn't resist the chance to use this image... Silent3 Feb 2013 #142
It's ok tabbycat31 Feb 2013 #143
it is the sugar and carbs riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #23
I'm not for demonizing any particular types of food Silent3 Feb 2013 #46
My son met Gary Taubes and thinks that Gary has some good ideas. riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #77
While I'd agree with the call for more research... Silent3 Feb 2013 #103
I ate protein-rich food and cut the sugars Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #76
Congratulations 1gobluedem Feb 2013 #24
I set up an exercise, television room. bluestate10 Feb 2013 #25
Yep, when I'm using my elliptical rider at home... Silent3 Feb 2013 #36
Congrats! Apophis Feb 2013 #26
Agreed Ian Iam Feb 2013 #27
I go low carb healthy fat. Works like magic. geckosfeet Feb 2013 #28
I've lost 55 lbs. teenagebambam Feb 2013 #29
Good rant! GoneOffShore Feb 2013 #30
I've managed to do something that I know a lot of the "experts" would recommend against... Silent3 Feb 2013 #58
Hooray for you! MuseRider Feb 2013 #31
Congrats and good on ya! arthritisR_US Feb 2013 #32
Thumbs up tjwash Feb 2013 #33
Good luck to you too. :) n/t Silent3 Feb 2013 #43
You are an inspiration demwing Feb 2013 #34
One thing that "inspired" me was a new scale my wife bought Silent3 Feb 2013 #42
Thank you. SheilaT Feb 2013 #35
Flexibility is something for me to work on Silent3 Feb 2013 #41
My fitness levels depends solely on me. I like that. Saboburns Feb 2013 #38
Once you've made progress, you really don't need to expend as much effort to stay that way. randome Feb 2013 #39
I remember maintaining with less than I'm doing now... Silent3 Feb 2013 #40
being inspired is much better than being pushed liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #83
Congrats, broad brush aside. flvegan Feb 2013 #44
Thank you... Silent3 Feb 2013 #48
Prove up your claim. flvegan Feb 2013 #54
I'm not even sure which "claim" you're referring to. Silent3 Feb 2013 #55
Emotion. flvegan Feb 2013 #56
Silent3 is right. GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #84
Groupies? Did you read the OP? flvegan Feb 2013 #134
Yes, I read the OP. GaYellowDawg Feb 2013 #135
Occasionally I find it hard to respond to a post without expressing amusement... Silent3 Feb 2013 #136
Didn't you have something to say about fitness folks being obnoxious? flvegan Feb 2013 #137
No, I said something about fitness fanatics who are obnoxious... Silent3 Feb 2013 #138
You should re-read your OP. flvegan Feb 2013 #146
I'm fine with what I said in my OP, especially given that I called it a "rant". Silent3 Feb 2013 #147
Glucose 108, cholesterol 133... Silent3 Feb 2013 #133
Congratulations! You did it for you and that is the way it should be! liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #47
Great post! I have not found a way to make exercise anything other than work to me. Lisa0825 Feb 2013 #49
One of THE Best Posts That I Have Ever Read on DU!! Yavin4 Feb 2013 #52
What ever cranks your moter donco Feb 2013 #59
Congrats Silent3. ucrdem Feb 2013 #62
Maybe this would be on the cover :) Silent3 Feb 2013 #63
aww... ucrdem Feb 2013 #64
FYI maintenance (from someone there...) tavernier Feb 2013 #65
I've been burning those clothing bridges behind me. Silent3 Feb 2013 #68
Thank you for this....... a kennedy Feb 2013 #66
Pretty much all fanatics are obnoxious, really. MineralMan Feb 2013 #67
There are some fantatics I don't mind too much. Silent3 Feb 2013 #69
Right. Fanatics who don't tell everyone else that they should MineralMan Feb 2013 #70
junior high gym class was traumatizing thanks to bullies Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #71
It wasn't until I'd lost about 30 lbs. that I went back into the health club... Silent3 Feb 2013 #73
i'm definitely not dismissing gyms for anyone else Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #81
Many of Us Have Had Severe Aversive Conditioning to Gyms and Exercise AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #128
nice. looks like a couple rainbow gatherings i've been to. Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #131
Martial Arts Wasn't On the Menu When I Was Growing Up AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #129
well i'm 40 now. Phillip McCleod Feb 2013 #132
I hate exercise... PasadenaTrudy Feb 2013 #74
Interesting piece in NYT today about arthritis. riverbendviewgal Feb 2013 #80
It's good in a way that diet can treat things like that... Silent3 Feb 2013 #96
Thanks. I started lo-carb a couple weeks ago and quickly realized pnwmom Sep 2014 #149
Thank you for your thoughts on this... Moostache Feb 2013 #75
wow. You've had some hardship in your life. I'm sorry. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #89
This is the first weight-loss story that's ever come close to motivating me rucky Feb 2013 #78
I know. Me too. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #79
Since I got a much more enthusiastic response to this post than I expected... Silent3 Feb 2013 #85
Wow. That's great. Congratulations. liberal_at_heart Feb 2013 #86
Funny that you should mention knees... Silent3 Feb 2013 #97
Congratulations and admirations Hekate Feb 2013 #88
Lookin' good. sarge43 Feb 2013 #93
you're an inspiration shireen Feb 2013 #90
There's the issue of whether the exercise makes you feel better while you're doing it... Silent3 Feb 2013 #106
Congratulations. NaturalHigh Feb 2013 #92
A lot of low fat foods compensate by adding sugar. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #94
Try "Truvia" the 'natural' substitute for sugar. I have cut (added) sugar completely and FailureToCommunicate Feb 2013 #95
fat free milk doesn't have added sugar. it's just that when you take out the fat, lactose becomes HiPointDem Feb 2013 #99
Crap, I fell for an urban legend. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #100
I think the demonizing of sugar (especially refined) has to be taken with a grain of salt... Silent3 Feb 2013 #102
Heartfelt rec and congrats War Horse Feb 2013 #101
In a way it's good that part of what you do is hard for you... Silent3 Feb 2013 #105
You are right about that :) War Horse Feb 2013 #121
I'm trying to get back into the routine ... Historic NY Feb 2013 #104
I'm lucky mythology Feb 2013 #108
I've often wondered if their isn't a certain amount of masochism... Silent3 Feb 2013 #109
That Whole "Burn" thing is Sheer Masochism AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #119
Congrats on your weight loss! smirkymonkey Feb 2013 #116
I can cope with the machine in the gym for a while... Silent3 Feb 2013 #117
Do You have a Woodstove or Fireplace? AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #118
Since we have a gas fireplace... Silent3 Feb 2013 #120
Some thoughts... nachosgrande Feb 2013 #122
Your Mileage May Vary AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #123
Gyms Take the Fun Out of Exercise AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #124
I've already done a span of eight years before this... Silent3 Feb 2013 #125
Have You Tried a Mountain Bike? AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #130
I've lost a lot as well, almost 100lbs, though it has been over more than half a decade high density Feb 2013 #126
Good job! Silent3 Feb 2013 #127
Congratulations and excellent Rant! magical thyme Feb 2013 #139
Agree 100% with everything you said! N/t sammytko Feb 2013 #140
Message auto-removed i am me. i am free. Feb 2013 #144
I did eight miles of snowshoeing this weekend... Silent3 Feb 2013 #145
Shameless bump to crow about reaching 80 lbs. gone :) Silent3 Apr 2013 #148
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