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In reply to the discussion: Apparently this is the breaking point, [View all]awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)235. We are at war with Eastasia...
we have always been at war with Eastasia.
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America's Culture Of Violence And Bravado Has Compromised The Presidency And American Morality
cantbeserious
Feb 2013
#2
Thats what I like about Madhound..everything he/she posts, is always in absolutes...
Katashi_itto
Feb 2013
#3
Yup and he dusted off a new rhetorical device to use today! Wonder how many times we'll have to
FSogol
Feb 2013
#5
Not only are you in the wrong party, you're on the wrong side of history, the constitution, goodness
grahamhgreen
Feb 2013
#181
You no longer have to wonder about how the good Germans allowed Hitler to happen.
grahamhgreen
Feb 2013
#224
The who? You mean the people sworn to defend the constitution from all threats, will defend it?
grahamhgreen
Feb 2013
#223
Ok and our choice was - it doesnt sound like he's talking about choice for prez
leftyohiolib
Feb 2013
#29
it is bad, BUT given the reality we live in---PUKES slavering at the bit to grab power and
BlancheSplanchnik
Feb 2013
#172
For which he ought to be able to provide specific examples. But no one ever does.
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#105
Yes, I have a problem with torture. I am sure I left other things out too. nt
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#129
The memo cites undue burden in capturing these people without defining what the burden should be.
NOVA_Dem
Feb 2013
#151
I am glad you are against war crimes at least when the REpublicans do them.
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#157
Those who decide what war crimes are and who came up with the idea do not agree. nt
stevenleser
Feb 2013
#158
I have more research to do but I believe the UN has not endorsed killer drone strikes outside
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#163
How sad. Very sad. You are rationalizing that killing with drones is ok because Bush did it.
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#292
"Codifying the conditions" is that like a pinky swear? And "LESS likely" is only good until it isnt
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#154
Sorry, but the rights granted under Amendment 6 do not apply outside the US....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#62
Show me in the Constitution where the Constitution does not apply to a US citizen accused of a crime
RC
Feb 2013
#91
Again, read Amendment 6 carefully. The protections extend only to US Citizens in US states and....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#179
You're confusing the rights of law-abiding US Citizens traveling or working abroad....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#187
What should I "try" about it? If you have an argument on this issue, take it up with...
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#239
Because the Reagen Administrator did it, that makes it legal for every Administration after that?
RC
Feb 2013
#248
Show me where the Drone attacks are limited to persons "taking up arms against the US overseas"
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#170
No person …nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#256
What Due Process is a non-custodial enemy combatant owed? Specifically, what is the due? nt
msanthrope
Feb 2013
#138
If an American is participating in a plot to harm US military or civilian personnel overseas....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#267
Ah...the truth comes out. You're not an American, but you want to dictate what....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#272
If you think this discussion is about "American fascism" then you either....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#278
Will be very curious to know what Republican you will want for president in 2016
Katashi_itto
Feb 2013
#11
Well as long as Republicans make Attila the Hun look like Mother Teresa...technically yep.
Katashi_itto
Feb 2013
#20
Well, leaving those countries completely at the mercy of the turmoil Bush caused...
randome
Feb 2013
#48
It is NOT okay with me. I would prefer additional restraints on the use of military power.
randome
Feb 2013
#178
If you want to argue the inhumanity of war, that's probably best saved for another thread.
randome
Feb 2013
#123
Madhound...for some, there is nothing, and I mean NOTHING that Obama could do
truth2power
Feb 2013
#24
Why is it nobody seems to want to discuss the fact that this policy was started under Reagan....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#28
But, are the actions carried out by the Obama Administration any more or less Constitutional ....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#58
People are blowing this way out of proportion and should save their energy...
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#32
When the little kids get blown up along their supposed extremist parents....
FredStembottom
Feb 2013
#309
Only to people who repeatedly post about other poster's intellect (sic)....
Democracyinkind
Feb 2013
#325
the constitution is undergoing a revision as far as laws maintaining their guild lines of the conste
IsiahHallJr
Feb 2013
#36
No doubt about it. There is no Constitutional foundation for 'extrajudicial killing.'
Octafish
Feb 2013
#38
If we're going to support regulation for assault rifles for the population,
Baitball Blogger
Feb 2013
#51
"Taking up arms" is a good rhetorical device that makes things seem pretty airtight
TheKentuckian
Feb 2013
#99
What the critics don't seem to understand is the key language in Amendment 6....
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#67
I see your point, but they are also targeting people who have not "taken up arms".
limpyhobbler
Feb 2013
#74
Will it be okay to take out Domestic terrorists with drones on American soil?
proReality
Feb 2013
#96
And run the risk of having Romney in the White House? Seriously?? Please. nt.
OldDem2012
Feb 2013
#84
You've been here since June of this year, and you're sending off long-timers?
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2013
#139
Sorry to hear about your execution. It looks like the resurrection is working nicely though.
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2013
#145
I disagree MH. This is not the "breaking point". As you can see in this thread
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#92
There is no perfect solution if a group is that determined I get the feeling they will find a way to
Arcanetrance
Feb 2013
#106
Yes the president takes that oath but violating other nations borders with drones and "targeted"
Arcanetrance
Feb 2013
#118
Putting troops on the ground on other countries would kill FAR more civilians than drones.
randome
Feb 2013
#124
Forgive me if you took what I said as an insult it wasn't meant that way.
Arcanetrance
Feb 2013
#132
What a sad rationalization. Killing just a few innocent women and children is ok
rhett o rick
Feb 2013
#169
To me the drone decision proves the powerful protect each other without regard to the less powerful.
Lint Head
Feb 2013
#121
My breaking point came when he promised to escalate the lost war in Afghanistan.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2013
#126
And many of those people were Taliban beheading women and chopping the hands off unbelievers.
randome
Feb 2013
#133
And putting troops on the ground would ensure more civilian casualties. That's a fact.
randome
Feb 2013
#198
Personally, I think the only thing missing was an Official Declaration of War against Al Qiada
lapfog_1
Feb 2013
#134
You wouldn't have found a supportive word on DU for Bush had he written the same memo
LittleBlue
Feb 2013
#261
Why is anybody surprised? Obama has been far worse than Bush about this all along
BlueStreak
Feb 2013
#194
Is there a difference between a "breaking point" and a "line in the sand"?...
SidDithers
Feb 2013
#250