How is he any different from Clinton? (Reply #83)

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Thu Feb 7, 2013, 12:55 PM

zentrum (9,673 posts)

83. How is he any different from Clinton?

Both are moderate Republicans in their economic policies. LBJ was disastrous and tragic on foreign policy of course, but much braver on domestic policy than O is. O is the first Democratic President to utter the words "entitlement reform" in the same sentence. He's no FDR. You won't hear O talking fearlessly against "The Economic Royalists" as FDR did. O is more likely to hire them as advisors.

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172 replies	Author	Time	Post
President Obama is the Best President in My Lifetime. [View all]	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	OP
I agree!I cast my first vote in 1954.	watercolors	Feb 2013	#1
1954!!!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#34
Asuming continued upward trajectory of the economy through his second term...	gcomeau	Feb 2013	#2
Who are your top ten now?	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#35
I was actually referring to the aggregate on those periodic historian surveys...	gcomeau	Feb 2013	#78
Assuming we don't get another war.	leveymg	Feb 2013	#103
This message was self-deleted by its author	KoKo	Feb 2013	#3
You couldn't disagree more, so who is the best in your lifetime?	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#57
I have trouble cheering another face on Rushmore	demwing	Feb 2013	#58
Fantastic avatar!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#59
please, no more presidents on rushmore	hopemountain	Feb 2013	#168
.	blkmusclmachine	Feb 2013	#4
Nice to hear from you!	flamingdem	Feb 2013	#5
flamingdem!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#36
I don't feel the same, far from it, but I respect your opinion	quinnox	Feb 2013	#6
And I yours.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#42
I've changed my thinking on the President, not the best ever, a big bait 'n switch.	xtraxritical	Feb 2013	#135
He's interesting and a nice man, but in my opinion he is not the	Autumn	Feb 2013	#7
I'm in my	840high	Feb 2013	#13
Me too. I really couldn't care less how he's ranked.	tblue	Feb 2013	#134
Who is the best in your lifetime?	bigwillq	Feb 2013	#17
I'm gonna be 68 next week.	Plucketeer	Feb 2013	#118
Wow!	magic59	Feb 2013	#8
There have only been 4 presidents in my lifetime;	Jamaal510	Feb 2013	#9
No more Bushes!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#37
DADT was seen as a step forward during that era by many folks.	Sirveri	Feb 2013	#76
I wish more people understood that.	tblue	Feb 2013	#132
Watching Al Gore Whine About Current TV -	otohara	Feb 2013	#92
We worked for him, time for reciprocation	milwaukeelib33	Feb 2013	#10
I like your list.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#41
Meh. He's not really a president, he's more like a CEO	leftstreet	Feb 2013	#11
+1 Never thought of it that way before, will never think of him any other way again.	forestpath	Feb 2013	#15
That's what the office has become, if they aren't like that going in	Puzzledtraveller	Feb 2013	#40
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2013	#12
your bitter tears are nectar to my soul...	dionysus	Feb 2013	#23
Careful dion, the conspiracy tag team has arrived, and they brought friends!	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2013	#131
The sub-thread of half-literate hate directly below our posts truly says it all.	Number23	Feb 2013	#143
The dwindling numbers speak volumes. No one here, even the haters, believe that this is about....	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2013	#149
Well, as I said downthread there are lots of issues that I would have liked to have seen him handle	Number23	Feb 2013	#154
Forgot, these same folks hated Bill Clinton and always will. And he is more revered, more respected	Number23	Feb 2013	#156
We just had an election where 75% of Americans agree with the POTUS' use....	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2013	#159
Not only 75% of Americans agree with the use of drones, 77% of LIBERAL DEMS do as well	Number23	Feb 2013	#162
"they don't even represent a majority of the fringe??"	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2013	#164
West\Manning 2016!!1!1	dionysus	Feb 2013	#160
Not even in jest, dion! Not Even In Jest!!!!!	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2013	#165
he's comin' after ya!	dionysus	Feb 2013	#171
How about some warning, dion? Can u imagine waking up to that in the middle....	Tarheel_Dem	Feb 2013	#172
It's quite a record, for sure,	woo me with science	Feb 2013	#28
Careful.	Lizzie Poppet	Feb 2013	#52
Good one.	Beacool	Feb 2013	#69
They have to be out for blood tonight.	woo me with science	Feb 2013	#70
+1 nt	OnyxCollie	Feb 2013	#84
Applause!	FredStembottom	Feb 2013	#101
+1	leftstreet	Feb 2013	#110
+1...interesting insight...in last paragraph.	KoKo	Feb 2013	#120
I'm thoroughly disgusted at the jury's hiding Doctor_J's post	tpsbmam	Feb 2013	#129
I am too.	bvar22	Feb 2013	#138
I was appalled by that, too.	woo me with science	Feb 2013	#157
!!!	bvar22	Feb 2013	#136
Rec'd n/t	Catherina	Feb 2013	#137
Rec.	840high	Feb 2013	#153
i thought congress	iamthebandfanman	Feb 2013	#82
wmws......you get my awesome post of the day award.....	tpsbmam	Feb 2013	#128
I don't think we can put anyone on Rushmore	dsc	Feb 2013	#14
Mt. Rushmore can easily handle President Obama: He's really skinny.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#38
Agree with that and your OP. I've been telling people BO is the best in my lifetime for a while now.	freshwest	Feb 2013	#72
Totally agree.	EC	Feb 2013	#16
I also agree.	AsahinaKimi	Feb 2013	#20
I am beginning to believe that America has tipped...	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#45
Your daughter is a lucky girl.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#43
My sentiments exactly, I am proud to call Obama my President!	DrewFlorida	Feb 2013	#18
Great avatar.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#44
Mine too, but Obama is the first President in my lifetime who I have full faith and trust.	DrewFlorida	Feb 2013	#60
I agree	riverbendviewgal	Feb 2013	#19
Indeed.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#46
Even greater than Reagan???	Ian Iam	Feb 2013	#21
Ha!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#48
long time no see bud!	dionysus	Feb 2013	#22
dionysus, you rule!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#49
Great to see you on here, David	juajen	Feb 2013	#90
I really like your avatar, juajen.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#98
Nice to see you, David.	Starry Messenger	Feb 2013	#24
I'll always adore you.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#50
Now I'm crying.	Starry Messenger	Feb 2013	#67
k&r n/t	RainDog	Feb 2013	#25
Thanks, RainDog.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#93
I remember FDR. That's how old I am and I wish	Cleita	Feb 2013	#26
FDR is a great role model.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#95
yes	Whisp	Feb 2013	#27
I'm standing with him because I know the crowd that won't.	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#124
I currently put him at #4 alltime, after Lincoln/FDR/LBJ and right before Carter.	graham4anything	Feb 2013	#29
I agree	madokie	Feb 2013	#30
Easy to k&r!	Politicub	Feb 2013	#31
Nice	ismnotwasm	Feb 2013	#32
The last President	sulphurdunn	Feb 2013	#33
You have many examples to bolster your argument, that is true	Boomerproud	Feb 2013	#54
He picks his advisors.	sulphurdunn	Feb 2013	#62
Your post shows how ignorant you are of President Obama's Accomplishments..	Cha	Feb 2013	#63
Please give me	sulphurdunn	Feb 2013	#77
That list is widely available, right here on DU.	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#111
So post it.	sulphurdunn	Feb 2013	#146
Agree.	JoePhilly	Feb 2013	#39
I'd have to go with Carter	Vattel	Feb 2013	#47
Yep	AgingAmerican	Feb 2013	#79
I agree, voted since 1968	still_one	Feb 2013	#51
Easily top 10 Prez of all time so far. And that top 10 list includes some exceptional company.	JaneyVee	Feb 2013	#53
my lifetime? i`d say ike,then johnson.	madrchsod	Feb 2013	#55
With Medicare and civil rights good point. Those who went to Nam, maybe not	still_one	Feb 2013	#56
Not by a long shot.	alarimer	Feb 2013	#61
Yeah, you should have voted for John McCain and Mitt Romney.	Cha	Feb 2013	#66
This message was self-deleted by its author	Son of Gob	Feb 2013	#74
AGREED! Nobody is perfect	jazzimov	Feb 2013	#64
Hey David...	WillyT	Feb 2013	#65
Hey WillyT!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#100
Bless your heart, David Z..	Cha	Feb 2013	#68
It is blessed with Cha!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#113
Heart and Soul, David.	sheshe2	Feb 2013	#71
I was born early in the first Eisenhower term. Obama is the best in my life and I expect his	Rowdyboy	Feb 2013	#73
Don't mess with the Rowdyboy! He's the man!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#127
"I expect his 2nd term to be better than his 1st." Couldn't agree more	Number23	Feb 2013	#145
woot	ellisonz	Feb 2013	#75
APPLAUSE!!! Great post! I agree with everything you wrote. nt	rivegauche	Feb 2013	#80
I am in total agreement with your opinion.	Cracklin Charlie	Feb 2013	#81
How is he any different from Clinton?	zentrum	Feb 2013	#83
Well, Clinton had a good economy	kudzu22	Feb 2013	#139
If I could rec your post 1000 times I would.	Coolest Ranger	Feb 2013	#85
Prepare for the Deluge.	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#86
Explain why	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#97
It is the poster's opinion about the President.	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#99
Discussion forum	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#102
Yes, it is, and there has been a good deal of	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#104
Yes one can	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#105
I believe you may be overanalyzing here.	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#106
And mine was "why"	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#107
Do you get that "sense?"	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#116
It's not about comment	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#117
There's my guy!	David Zephyr	Feb 2013	#112
Wow! Thanks for that.	MineralMan	Feb 2013	#114
Sorry, David, I know people who have met him, and they say he's terrific in person, BUT...	Lydia Leftcoast	Feb 2013	#87
I love the guy	libodem	Feb 2013	#88
I was born in 64	RedstDem	Feb 2013	#89
You may realize it now	S.A.M	Feb 2013	#91
Let's see...Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush, and Bush.	Zorra	Feb 2013	#94
Were you in a coma when Carter was president?	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#125
LOL ~ yeh, back then I was having more than a few	Zorra	Feb 2013	#166
Hmmmm	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#96
LBJ knew how to handle Congress and made good use of the Bully Pulpit	maddiemom	Feb 2013	#121
Oh, and I'd love to have seen Lyndon take care of Mitch McConnell and the like	maddiemom	Feb 2013	#123
I know what you mean	zipplewrath	Feb 2013	#130
He wouldn't have had to "take care of" Mitch McConnel.	bvar22	Feb 2013	#141
I'm not sure that Obama's support for Blanche Lincoln was decisive	Art_from_Ark	Feb 2013	#158
Thanks! Great illustrative pictures. And you're right. If he'd handled "Dems"	maddiemom	Feb 2013	#169
Best Republican President in my lifetime...	joeybee12	Feb 2013	#108
Yes I completely agree! Everything considered (it's a different world today) He is the best!	hue	Feb 2013	#109
I will agree on social issues and give some credit on economic issues but	rhett o rick	Feb 2013	#115
couldn't agree more. good to see you around again.	grantcart	Feb 2013	#119
I'm with you David! n/t	Greybnk48	Feb 2013	#122
Jimmy Carter, hands down...	ScreamingMeemie	Feb 2013	#126
President Obama is the best President of my Lifetime	dembat	Feb 2013	#133
David, we've laughed together, we've cried together	Catherina	Feb 2013	#140
Agreed. And I've watched them all since JFK....	OldDem2012	Feb 2013	#142
K&R I llike him alot, though I have to admit to loving Michelle more	Number23	Feb 2013	#144
Michelle46 in 2024 and 2028 after Hillary45 in 2016 and 2020.	graham4anything	Feb 2013	#151
Well said: I agree entirely.	apocalypsehow	Feb 2013	#147
It may be a little premature to make that pronouncement but...	kentuck	Feb 2013	#148
+1	Loge23	Feb 2013	#152
K & R	Scurrilous	Feb 2013	#150
Considering there have been only three other Presidents in my lifetime....	YoungDemCA	Feb 2013	#155
K&R	Yavin4	Feb 2013	#161
Carter was best in my opinion.	blackspade	Feb 2013	#163
yes, he is the right man for the times	hopemountain	Feb 2013	#167
K&R	Yavin4	Feb 2013	#170

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