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In reply to the discussion: I'm a loyal member of the Democratic Party and I don't have a problem with Drones [View all]xiamiam
(4,906 posts)259. American here against drones and for the constitution and rule of law
politicians come and go and have often proven themselves to be unworthy of elected office. That is their choice.
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politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
OP
Ronald Reagan called the African National Congress a 'terrorist organization'. Should
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2013
#110
The African National Congress wasn't planning terrorist attacks against the United States
George II
Feb 2013
#166
Way to miss the point. The ANC weren't 'terrorists' at all. But that
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2013
#171
Didn't mess the point at all - your comment was illogical in this discussion.
George II
Feb 2013
#176
Was not illogical in the slightest. Get this: when Obama orders a drone strike on
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2013
#183
Targeting it with the military is using a bazooka to go after a flea (with
coalition_unwilling
Feb 2013
#213
Fine - get Iran, Somalia, Syria, etc. to extradite one of them to the US...think that will happen?
George II
Feb 2013
#167
One would think that if someone was in another country working to take down our government..........
George II
Feb 2013
#196
Jimmy Lee Dykes was killed this week without a trial, or, as people here now like to say...
George II
Feb 2013
#204
Police forces have been rescuing kidnappees for decades, maybe more than a century........
George II
Feb 2013
#229
So where do you draw the line? How much freedom will you give up in order to feel safe?
white_wolf
Feb 2013
#230
Why don't you ask the parents of that kid that was held captive in the bunker for almost a week?
George II
Feb 2013
#238
They already are, and the courts have upheld the Patriot Act which allows them to do so. I don't
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#31
Yes. We wouldn't want to spread conspiracy theories that hurt perceptions of government legitimacy.
Octafish
Feb 2013
#61
You do realize Bush and Cheney outted a CIA super-spy and her network to warn political opponents?
Octafish
Feb 2013
#223
Yes it explains a lot. That some of us have more time on their hands to dissect every word and try
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#25
Why does "Occupy Yadda Yadda" have to repeatedly get dragged into discusisons around here????
George II
Feb 2013
#205
Darryl Gates stood by his officers who beat Rodney King and thought that they used reasonable force.
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#28
Akhil Reed Amar is Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University....
reACTIONary
Feb 2013
#274
I hold Darryl Gates responsible for the destruction caused by the Los Angeles riots in '92.
kwassa
Feb 2013
#173
The specific person about whom all this debate (and the memo) centers.......
George II
Feb 2013
#210
You're citing a 123 year old incident as justification for NOT going after known terrorists?
George II
Feb 2013
#248
When I was in Iraq, there were always rumors of Americans fighting on the other side
Recursion
Feb 2013
#10
They are evil because am worried other countries will bring them here. However,
southernyankeebelle
Feb 2013
#12
I don't disagree with anything you've said. Our troops are certainly at risk when we put boots on
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#38
Aside from disagreeing with you about secretly targeting Americans with NO oversight from
cali
Feb 2013
#23
Yes I had a problem with torture, having served in the military, I had a problem with it.
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#40
You're not alone. Unfortunately, we have to wade through rivers of bullshit and hyperbole...
EastKYLiberal
Feb 2013
#56
Not in every situation when it comes to war, someone works for the other side then all bets are off
uponit7771
Feb 2013
#244
How's the weather up there on that high horse in that black and white world in which you live?
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#51
Seriously? What you are essentially saying is that Obama has every right to execute anyone he
Zorra
Feb 2013
#64
Ask the soldiers on the ground how they feel about sending in an unmanned drone
cutroot
Feb 2013
#65
Not true. The person piloting a Drone can see things very clearly from halfway around the world.
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#79
The civil war was not a "real war" in the constititionally-defined sense.
Jeff In Milwaukee
Feb 2013
#88
Both Saddam Hussein and Fidel Castro were legally recognized heads of state
Jeff In Milwaukee
Feb 2013
#168
Exactly. People seem to have conveniently forgotten that we are at war with the terrorists,
kestrel91316
Feb 2013
#107
Who the fuck is "they"? Me, because I went to an Occupy site a few times? Bone up on your history
HomerRamone
Feb 2013
#161
"if you've renounced your country and are actively seeking its destruction by aligning"
Hissyspit
Feb 2013
#224
an employee of the military industrial complex, well, not a shock that you take this position
quinnox
Feb 2013
#83
I'm glad you're torn. These are not easy decisions. It's those who see everything
politicaljunkie41910
Feb 2013
#95
Yeah, eventually Americans figured out the Iraq War was a pile of illegal crap....
Hissyspit
Feb 2013
#105
"in other words everything from remote-controlled drones to weapons with complete autonomy."
think
Feb 2013
#221
"And NOW you want them to do it without the military assistance of the United States. "
think
Feb 2013
#218
"you don't know what the threats are until you get those secure briefings that the President gets"
Hissyspit
Feb 2013
#114
Welcome politicaljunkie41910 & thank you! This IS about life death & your assistance is appreciated.
patrice
Feb 2013
#117
ALL of us make our "compromises", including you & to assume that no one can do that
patrice
Feb 2013
#135
Are you calling me bigoted and privileged? You don't know shit, do you?
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#151
we have not been involved in any morally justifyable military action since WWII
bowens43
Feb 2013
#132
For many people, party affiliation follows, and is predicated on principle.
LanternWaste
Feb 2013
#137
Jean Quan, "Progressive Democrat" mayor of Oakland repeatedly attacked Occupy Oakland
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#153
What does that have to do with the use of drones to kill traitors in enemy camps?
George II
Feb 2013
#203
You missed the part about Prog Democrat Jean Quan very nearly killing two US Veterans on US soil?
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#214
Since this discussion was about using drones in the Middle East to destroy terrorists, yes.......
George II
Feb 2013
#228
I can't believe some of the shit I'm reading on a supposedly progressive website.
Fantastic Anarchist
Feb 2013
#154
and as long as secret panels can make these decisions behind closed doors - we are safe
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2013
#272
Unlawful aggression within the borders of sovereign nations is not self defense.
Egalitarian Thug
Feb 2013
#193
As a member of the military, you take an oath to support and defend the Constitution,
MadHound
Feb 2013
#185
Every Corner Cop should have a personal drone fleet! It's just the same as any other weapon!
bobduca
Feb 2013
#195
Dreams in Infrared: The Woes of an American Drone Operator - Der Spiegel
farminator3000
Feb 2013
#191
Having won the Nobel Peace Prize, it proves that the drone war is a good thing.
AngryAmish
Feb 2013
#201
As a gun owner.... I think it's my god given right to have a small drone base in my backyard.
Katashi_itto
Feb 2013
#232
I can't say I disagree with a single thing you said. This was the "shiny object" Repukes were.....
Tarheel_Dem
Feb 2013
#234
This thread proves that there are Democrats that believe doing something is bad...
AZ Progressive
Feb 2013
#261
as long as there is a secret panel to determine who is targeted - what could possibly go wrong?
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2013
#270
I'm an American and I have an enormous problem with the whittling away at our Bill of Rights
Fire Walk With Me
Feb 2013
#273