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redqueen

(115,103 posts)
Sun Feb 17, 2013, 07:50 PM Feb 2013

Watch your thoughts, for they become words. [View all]

Most of you probably recognize that line. Some of you think it has merit and some not. Most of us recognize that language does influence society. Those who have studied history recognize the patterns used when groups of people are intentionally objectified and dehumanized using language, and the reasons behind such objectification and dehumanization.

Recently it was posited in meta by a handful of people that the word 'pussy' isn't really a sexist insult (either because in their opinion it actually refers to cats, or it just isn't that 'serious' of an insult, etc.) I thought after seeing that thread that it would be good to ask in here about the insult, to get an idea of what most people on DU thought. As I expected (this being a progressive board) most people did find it sexist. (As pointed out in the thread it is actually misogynist, and not sexist, but many people don't clearly understand the distinction, so in an effort to encourage more discussion I used 'sexist'.)

Now today we have a thread equating 'balls' with courage. A common expression. As common as the one equating 'pussy' with weakness and cowardice. Another common expression when someone is perceived to be complaining without reason is that that person needs to get the 'sand out of their vagina'. There are many more. There are other many more expressions associating strength with male sex organs, and weakness with female ones. When a man is perceived to be bossed by his female partner, people might make jokes about him having handed over his organs to her.

Many people seem to prefer to think these ideas are just silly jokes. I say they are not. They are subtle reinforcements of an idea which has been with us for millennia, and if we are serious about creating a world where women are freed from being treated like they are 'less than' and the 'other' then we might want to start watching our thoughts and words.

Yes, these are common expressions. However, 'mighty white of you' used to be a common expression, too.

Guess why it isn't anymore?

Because we started taking racism seriously.

Please consider no longer treating these 'silly' ideas (which reinforce the idea that women are less than) as if they are not worth considering. The war on women is not just in the legislature or in our bedrooms. It's in our minds. That's where misogyny initially takes root. That's where insidious things like these 'harmless jokes' and habits like victim blaming start.

Thanks for reading.

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Kick kentuck Feb 2013 #1
Sorry. It is nothing personal. redqueen Feb 2013 #2
In our house, the word "balls" means... bunnies Feb 2013 #3
I've heard it used that way, too. redqueen Feb 2013 #4
Ive never seen that show... bunnies Feb 2013 #5
The Brits use it that way a lot. Fawke Em Feb 2013 #6
Yes, bollocks is bad, dog's bollocks is good. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #7
Irish "bollocks" is NO kind of positive, or strength.. or any good thing. annabanana Feb 2013 #14
Kicked for exposure. n/t Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #8
Betty White said something like (and if someone knows the quote please correct me): panader0 Feb 2013 #9
Jesus! I love me some Betty White but... Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #10
Actually, she says she did not say it, a comedian named Sheng Wang did Sweet Freedom Feb 2013 #16
Women are fair game. Playtex didn't make a smarmy ad with watermelons & tap-dancing, did they? WinkyDink Feb 2013 #11
I can't imagine what thoughts let you to use the word "f*toilet" in this thread, msanthrope Feb 2013 #12
That word was coined by the users of porn and prostitutes. redqueen Feb 2013 #18
You know, redqueen, I've been told on this board by certain male posters that their use of the msanthrope Feb 2013 #19
Please. Recall, if you are able to, how often he'd used that and similar terms in the past. redqueen Feb 2013 #20
So, your defense is that you used filthy, sexist language fewer times? msanthrope Feb 2013 #21
Using "filthy" sexist language in the context of pointing out that it is sexist and wrong redqueen Feb 2013 #26
Wow. You should make up your mind. polly7 Feb 2013 #31
You should look up 'IIRC'. This will be my only response to your derailing effort. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #33
ah redq, just let it go. it is working on a year of these two bring it into threads of yours, seabeyond Feb 2013 #34
Maybe you don't get polly7 Feb 2013 #36
Heh .... we were called polly7 Feb 2013 #35
Your discipline and relentless effort to the task astounds. cliffordu Feb 2013 #13
Oh please, I sing this to my precious cats all the time.. 1620rock Feb 2013 #15
There is nothing sexist in showing a photo of a male doctor. noamnety Feb 2013 #17
"so subtle, we aren't even aware they are happening."" influence others in ways so imperceptible" seabeyond Feb 2013 #25
Monday morning kick n/t Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #22
Does being called a dick have a positive connotation? sadbear Feb 2013 #23
It doesn't come with generations of institutionalized and social oppression on the basis of sex. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #24
+1 LiberalLoner Feb 2013 #30
I appplaud your willingness to explore and expose the effect words have on gender attitudes Tom Rinaldo Feb 2013 #27
Excellent commentary. Raffi Ella Feb 2013 #28
Huge K&R LiberalLoner Feb 2013 #29
Well done. nt bemildred Feb 2013 #32
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