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WillyT

(72,631 posts) Wed Feb 20, 2013, 09:57 PM Feb 2013

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Guns, Drones, and FEAR...

I still believe in this...

AUTHOR: Benjamin Franklin (1706–90)

QUOTATION: Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

Link: http://www.bartleby.com/73/1056.html

How about you ?

28 votes, 5 passes \| Time left: Unlimited
	Yes... I am afraid enough to give up some liberties to have the government protect me.
	2 (7%)
	No... I believe there is a better, more mature way, to solve the things we may feel threaten us.
	26 (93%)
	Obligitory Other.
	0 (0%)
	5 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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Please Be Brave Enough To Respond To This Poll [View all] WillyT Feb 2013 OP

I voted "pass" on your poll. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #1

I agree... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #2

The Right To Either Be Felt-Up Or Photographed Nude In Order To Travel... WillyT Feb 2013 #5

Very interesting reminder of the reality of what jaysunb Feb 2013 #23

Yep... It Was Predicted By A Guy Who Is At The Bottom Of The Ocean... WillyT Feb 2013 #28

Perhaps if you'd stated it as such in your poll... Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #41

When was the last time you saw a poll at DU that was not an embarassing push poll? grantcart Feb 2013 #13

Yes. I could do without Ed's nightly poll (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Feb 2013 #42

I haven't replied to your poll yet and I'll explain why below: white_wolf Feb 2013 #3

Perhaps if one views "the state" 2naSalit Feb 2013 #6

I would think so because... white_wolf Feb 2013 #11

Indeed 2naSalit Feb 2013 #14

Totally disagree Benton D Struckcheon Feb 2013 #36

We are going to firmly disagree, but that's fine. white_wolf Feb 2013 #37

For now.... Benton D Struckcheon Feb 2013 #43

I suggest Justice as Fairness: A Restatment white_wolf Feb 2013 #45

Spoons are awesome Katashi_itto Feb 2013 #4

Those who think something as abstract as liberty should trump safety... EastKYLiberal Feb 2013 #7

Oh Wow... That Does It... Between You And Ben Franklin ??? WillyT Feb 2013 #10

K&R patrice Feb 2013 #26

Franklin's statement was subtle, nuanced. Your poll is not. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #8

^^^This. ScreamingMeemie Feb 2013 #9

Gotta Admit... It Wasn't Intended To Be... But... WillyT Feb 2013 #12

Now I'm really confused. Are you saying that Benjamin Franklin favored mass-murder? Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #21

Just Curious... How Did You Come To THAT Supposition ??? WillyT Feb 2013 #25

Your reply led me to believe that your intention in this poll has something to do with guns. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #32

No... My Poll Has To Do With Fear... WillyT Feb 2013 #33

Well we are the most unjustifiably terrified nation on earth, and consequently becoming Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #34

Word !!! WillyT Feb 2013 #35

There is much more to this complicated issue. Too much DevonRex Feb 2013 #15

Franklin had it exactly right... badtoworse Feb 2013 #16

are you a coward scaredy cat or a mature and wise person? Whisp Feb 2013 #17

Is this about GUNS? undeterred Feb 2013 #18

No... It's About Fear... WillyT Feb 2013 #20

I think your thread title is manipulative crap & I think your poll is too abstract to mean anything. patrice Feb 2013 #19

You Seem... Upset... WillyT Feb 2013 #22

"deserve" patrice Feb 2013 #27

It's A Statement Of Philosophy From One Of The Guys That Put THIER Lives On The Line For Us All... WillyT Feb 2013 #29

I believe I mentioned it's relevance within it's own context a DIFFERENT time & set of circumstances patrice Feb 2013 #31

"It is absurd, the pretending to be lovers of liberty while they grudge paying for msanthrope Feb 2013 #24

In general I disagree with this libertarian claptrap. Howevr I do think that one geckosfeet Feb 2013 #30

I agree with Franklin's statement. It was a big hit on DU in 2002 Skip Intro Feb 2013 #38

Way too vague to vote anything but "other" ..."Guns, Drones, FEAR"? Rowdyboy Feb 2013 #39

We as a society can be "afraid" of lots of things, from pot to plutonium. Warren DeMontague Feb 2013 #40

Last Chance... WillyT Feb 2013 #44

He was - and is - right, within reason. reformist2 Feb 2013 #46

Poll doesn't match the quote. nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #47

A Majority Disagrees... WillyT Feb 2013 #48

No, quite literally the language in the poll choices does not match geek tragedy Feb 2013 #49

Ah... The Parsing Of Future Generations... Of The Founding Language... WillyT Feb 2013 #50

I would vote to agree with Franklin while also agreeing that part of living in a civilized geek tragedy Feb 2013 #51

wow. patrice Feb 2013 #52

Real liberty? Or fake liberty mwrguy Feb 2013 #53