according to the Copenhagen interpretation, it HAS TO BE instantaneous. (Reply #4)

In the discussion thread: physicists measure speed of Einstein’s ‘spooky action at a distance’: At least 10k x speed of light [View all]

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Warren DeMontague (80,708 posts)

4. according to the Copenhagen interpretation, it HAS TO BE instantaneous.

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That's the whole point. It's not about "sending" information, it's that locality itself is called into question; the notion that any two points, separated by space OR time, are really 'separate' at all.

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33 replies	Author	Time	Post
physicists measure speed of Einstein’s ‘spooky action at a distance’: At least 10k x speed of light [View all]	The Straight Story	Mar 2013	OP
Such speeds would actually make interplanetary travel outside our Solar system somewhat more	apocalypsehow	Mar 2013	#1
such speeds make time travel possible, for information at least	MjolnirTime	Mar 2013	#2
+186,282.	apocalypsehow	Mar 2013	#3
Wouldn't that be strange.	sofa king	Mar 2013	#30
Acceleration would be a big problem	Fearless	Mar 2013	#9
Says you	Duer 157099	Mar 2013	#22
according to the Copenhagen interpretation, it HAS TO BE instantaneous.	Warren DeMontague	Mar 2013	#4
Exactly.	RagAss	Mar 2013	#23
So if I'm understanding this right...	white_wolf	Mar 2013	#5
Its rather that the concept of space doesn't apply to quantum entaglement	bhikkhu	Mar 2013	#6
That's what I'm getting from all of this too. As Spock would say, "Fascinating."....	OldDem2012	Mar 2013	#7
Yup!	burrowowl	Mar 2013	#21
Nope, that would be incorrect.	longship	Mar 2013	#10
Quantum teleportation cannot be used to transmit information.	redgreenandblue	Mar 2013	#12
Well, you know what sammie hagar once said...	Javaman	Mar 2013	#13
Could it be that the two entangled particles are actually the same particle?	Kablooie	Mar 2013	#8
+1	bigtree	Mar 2013	#15
I don't think that's it...	ljm2002	Mar 2013	#16
I always liked that idea.	hunter	Mar 2013	#17
It is not a great analogy, but think of marbles	Thor_MN	Mar 2013	#11
That's not the way it works though.	hunter	Mar 2013	#14
But then there isn't much distance the way you do it.... Reread what I posted.	Thor_MN	Mar 2013	#19
Except it's not. The state of each particle is undefined until the state of one has a consequence.	hunter	Mar 2013	#20
I said it wasn't a perfect analogy in the first post, you may have missed that.	Thor_MN	Mar 2013	#25
The double slit experiment with individual electrons suggests the marble is gray.	hunter	Mar 2013	#29
You have done a double slit experiment with marbles?	Thor_MN	Mar 2013	#33
They are like twins or soul mates who have an inverse reaction to each other's experiences?	Jamastiene	Mar 2013	#18
Time and space are properties of perception. Not real entities.	RagAss	Mar 2013	#24
I believe its instantaneous	DCBob	Mar 2013	#26
And I believe it is not instantaneous	1-Old-Man	Mar 2013	#31
Far out, but not out of sight	Berlum	Mar 2013	#27
Argh! This makes my head hurt!	Hulk Smash	Mar 2013	#28
Actually, it's more like they FAILED to measure the speed. nt.	MineralMan	Mar 2013	#32

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