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gasser85

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Thu Mar 14, 2013, 06:59 PM

Mar 2013

The early christian manuscripts the church destroyed because they spoke to an individual relationship with god and not a through the bloated monolithic beast that Constantine succumbed to. All of the Gnostic writings and varied Gospels not canonized. What a crime. Rumor has it old Constantine remained a "Pagan" till his death. And no I'm not a believer in any organized religion.

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I am a Catholic, Baptized, First Communion, Confirmed, Altar-Boy... [View all] trumad Mar 2013 OP

Does the fact that Joe Biden is a practicing Roman Catholic reduce your respect for him? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #1

Simplistic reply to my OP. trumad Mar 2013 #2

This is the typical response from that poster here RainDog Mar 2013 #6

'Barbara Bush syndrome' amuse bouche Mar 2013 #28

Barbara Bush is not a Catholic. Joe Biden is. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #54

Surely you aren't that concrete minded RainDog Mar 2013 #57

This... Politicub Mar 2013 #59

Absolutely not. There are no rules here about slamming Joe Biden's religion, AFAIK. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #69

I think that was the point Bradical79 Mar 2013 #129

I'm loving your wit RainDog, good responses. Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #140

Off topic lark Mar 2013 #157

Your simplistic reply made my day. I would love to have a beer with you!!! coldbeer Mar 2013 #142

Thanks for the tip. HuckleB Mar 2013 #71

So what are you really trying to say? Why dont you just say it instead of asking a question like rhett o rick Mar 2013 #92

And how about JFK? (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #95

That's not even a complete question. How about him? Your questions are childish. nm rhett o rick Mar 2013 #114

I think a good number of politicians give religion the lip service it takes snooper2 Mar 2013 #145

Good one. strange7 Mar 2013 #179

Since you asked... TheAmbivalante Mar 2013 #94

The bigotry against cigar smokers here is simply shocking (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #97

I don't recall Joe Biden taking part in the Spanish Inquisition, or enabling the Holocaust,.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #100

Excellent point. Nye Bevan Mar 2013 #104

So does the Catholic organization who either took an active role in those events, or.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #109

Organizational decisions are how you judge an organization. Bradical79 Mar 2013 #131

Does it occur to you that there's a difference between Catholics and the Catholic Church? lunatica Mar 2013 #122

if Catholics don't make up the Catholic Church ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #124

You missed my point lunatica Mar 2013 #126

i got your point ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #128

For the same reason one is an American Citizen lunatica Mar 2013 #130

false analogy ProdigalJunkMail Mar 2013 #155

Yes. It makes me wonder how much of the rest of his brain is also wacko. BlueStreak Mar 2013 #137

How about Hitler? GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #146

and to follow up on the first post, what about John F. Kennedy? quinnox Mar 2013 #3

and to follow up on my second post... trumad Mar 2013 #12

It's amazing amuse bouche Mar 2013 #26

here's the key bobduca Mar 2013 #43

You have a point there amuse bouche Mar 2013 #58

Here's the corollary to your completely correct key, offered as a follw-up Occulus Mar 2013 #169

For that matter treestar Mar 2013 #82

Maybe you should review Kennedy's speech from Sept. 12, 1960. MsPithy Mar 2013 #49

Bravo! Bravo! n/t ReRe Mar 2013 #112

Agreed! Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #4

A billion people disagree with you. Zax2me Mar 2013 #5

And a half billion rebuke Mar 2013 #9

I guess we have a billion homophobes then? trumad Mar 2013 #14

The brush don't come much broader than that. zeemike Mar 2013 #91

well you are telling me that trumad Mar 2013 #98

I am not telling you anything zeemike Mar 2013 #105

hey you made the statement trumad Mar 2013 #119

I made no such statement. zeemike Mar 2013 #139

He's most likely still counted as a Catholic in that number, as am I, an atheist... Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #51

Haha, never thought of that, that would include me also though Puzzledtraveller Mar 2013 #143

Red herring really is delicious! HuckleB Mar 2013 #72

and 6+ billion people agree with him. magical thyme Mar 2013 #120

Message auto-removed CentristLiberal Mar 2013 #175

Keep your faith in your heart rebuke Mar 2013 #7

^ What a great quote ^ Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #21

Another version amuse bouche Mar 2013 #22

If you meant Church instead of Religion REP Mar 2013 #8

Went to Catholic schools for 12 years and totally agree with you. forestpath Mar 2013 #10

same here SemperEadem Mar 2013 #45

Wide is the gulf Summer Hathaway Mar 2013 #11

Good post. trumad Mar 2013 #15

yes it is bluemarkers Mar 2013 #63

I wonder if anyone is missing pintobean Mar 2013 #13

Yes I do. Thanks for asking amuse bouche Mar 2013 #29

Lol pintobean Mar 2013 #52

But of course amuse bouche Mar 2013 #56

I've never alerted on you. pintobean Mar 2013 #65

Who? GeorgeGist Mar 2013 #141

Yup. Iggo Mar 2013 #16

You are so very correct sir amuse bouche Mar 2013 #17

LOL trumad Mar 2013 #18

Ok then amuse bouche Mar 2013 #24

Kidding of course... trumad Mar 2013 #25

you want I should kick your non-caring ass, trumad? Skittles Mar 2013 #27

You say "I am a troll." But you can't be the real trumad. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #113

I was also raised strict Catholic truegrit44 Mar 2013 #19

Thank you. Can you JanMichael Mar 2013 #20

They protest and alert amuse bouche Mar 2013 #30

"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely." Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2013 #23

Trumad, I have all your qualifications (except alter boy - no girls allowed) plus 12 years of s-cubed Mar 2013 #31

Honestly-- I loved going to church as a kid... trumad Mar 2013 #37

grew up in the Episcopal Church bluemarkers Mar 2013 #68

My history is very similar, as is my opinion. HuckleB Mar 2013 #32

I was an Episcopalian, first communion, confirmed RebelOne Mar 2013 #33

In the 50s, I was taught your kind would burn in the flames of Hell for eternity Submariner Mar 2013 #39

I disagree with you completely... NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #34

Like I said--- Ity is my opinion... trumad Mar 2013 #38

Right - all Catholics are homophobes. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #41

well.. a billion celebrate the pope correct? trumad Mar 2013 #53

Okay...good luck with that. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #132

Then you celebrate a Homophobe. trumad Mar 2013 #133

No. I celebrate the election of Pope Francis. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #134

Thanks for the last word. trumad Mar 2013 #135

And Pope Francis is a big ol' homophobe. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #144

"So there you are..." NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #147

You support the guy. Own it. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #148

Yes, I support the guy. I own it. NaturalHigh Mar 2013 #149

Thank you for supporting homophobia. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #150

I feel sorry for you. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #171

If you support the church you support what they stand for. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #170

Millions think Obama is a Muslim! Are they idiots or not? Logical Mar 2013 #106

What you said! valerief Mar 2013 #35

It has existed for a couple thousand years though treestar Mar 2013 #36

Oh I am sure its done some good... trumad Mar 2013 #40

Slavery is an even older institution RainDog Mar 2013 #44

The Church is a very large and complex institution with a long history treestar Mar 2013 #48

I was merely pointing out that an appeal to history RainDog Mar 2013 #50

Appeals to History, Appeals to Authority bobduca Mar 2013 #61

Huh? treestar Mar 2013 #79

when was it for radicals? RainDog Mar 2013 #81

Are you kidding? The pointy hats and Liberace robes? Now that's radical. :-P Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #84

Hello, when it started it was a cult like any other treestar Mar 2013 #85

so you're trying to claim that the Catholic church and the early Christians are the same thing? RainDog Mar 2013 #87

They would not have been entirely different people treestar Mar 2013 #89

More Jews were martyred in the revolt of 66-70 RainDog Mar 2013 #93

and just to be honest about history RainDog Mar 2013 #99

The Catholic Church brought about and perpetuated the Dark Ages, you are correct. Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #182

What are you shitting me? The contemporary version is the mellow one. Their crimes are Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #62

Thank You amuse bouche Mar 2013 #66

As an institution the Church has had an atrocious record. I have been fortunate to encounter good Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #67

Agreed. Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #70

I went to an all girls catholic school amuse bouche Mar 2013 #75

That's fucked up. I went to an all boys school in the late 80s in Puerto Rico. My mother Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #78

That has been my experience as well. BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #77

BTW: Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #74

The pearl clutchers amuse bouche Mar 2013 #76

I was either 1, 2, 3 or 4 in that one. Didn't feel like writing an explanation. 6-0 is pretty good Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2013 #80

Thanks amuse bouche Mar 2013 #86

I fit that description too stupidicus Mar 2013 #42

mark your calendar... I actually agree with you for a change.. opiate69 Mar 2013 #46

R#38 & K n/t UTUSN Mar 2013 #47

Threatening the fear of death and afterlife seems to glowing Mar 2013 #55

Couldn't agree more! From another baptised Catholic>slated at one time by my parents for the nunnery hue Mar 2013 #60

Jesus, Mary and Joseph! BellaLuna Mar 2013 #64

Mother Teresa reputation "dubious:" Hissyspit Mar 2013 #73

Oh noes amuse bouche Mar 2013 #83

"From the beginning, not a thing exists." - Hui Neng RagAss Mar 2013 #88

You should have been raised like me. El Supremo Mar 2013 #90

witness! TheAmbivalante Mar 2013 #96

Ain't Big Religion grand? blkmusclmachine Mar 2013 #101

Is the Pope Catholic? WheelWalker Mar 2013 #102

Amen! progressoid Mar 2013 #103

Adeum qui latificat, trumad mitchtv Mar 2013 #107

I was raised by JEB Mar 2013 #108

As an Atheist I find it fascinating.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #110

+1 Dawson Leery Mar 2013 #115

Let's be honest, all Christian-based religions, including catholicism, have foundations in Paganism justiceischeap Mar 2013 #123

Even calling the old religions "pagan".... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2013 #159

And all gasser85 Mar 2013 #176

I was sent to a Catholic School when I was four years old, Zorra Mar 2013 #111

K&R ReRe Mar 2013 #116

Raised/educated Catholic. Non-practicing/agnostic, don't really care either way. nomorenomore08 Mar 2013 #117

Ever been to Italy? moondust Mar 2013 #118

I think you - as well as most other people - are looking at this thing sort of inside-out. harmonicon Mar 2013 #121

"accident of history" trumad Mar 2013 #125

My mom never wore sleeveless blouses or a bathing suit in public catbyte Mar 2013 #127

Just wait for the next election when this Pope sends his letter out to the bishops... Walk away Mar 2013 #136

Don't forget the election season press releases announcing which pro-choice Democrats will be denied smokey nj Mar 2013 #138

I agree. Apophis Mar 2013 #151

You have a right to 840high Mar 2013 #152

I admire your stance, trumad libodem Mar 2013 #153

Shouldn't you have the SAME contempt for the USA? on the same grounds, that is, unless bookkeeping patrice Mar 2013 #154

As an American who must pay taxes by law, I can only really be held ... Walk away Mar 2013 #158

Whether you agree with them or not, Christians believe that it is Baptism that makes them Christian, patrice Mar 2013 #162

The only problem with you version of catholicism is that it isn't Walk away Mar 2013 #164

What version of anything should anyone's be but their own? wow. nt patrice Mar 2013 #172

The only problem with your version of MY version is that you are an authoritarian thinker, i.e. patrice Mar 2013 #173

It's isn't my opinion. It is the dogma of the church you say you belong to. Walk away Mar 2013 #180

you have the cred to say it. barbtries Mar 2013 #156

. . . but i love the nuns on the bus! eom ellenfl Mar 2013 #160

HUGE K&R. cliffordu Mar 2013 #161

Basically the "faith" Catholics talk about refers to their own church and not in a deity. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2013 #163

As a Catholic-Atheist, I don't disagree, but propose that you consider the following context: Texas Lawyer Mar 2013 #165

The most important religious demographic trend in the U.S. RainDog Mar 2013 #168

Thank you ellie Mar 2013 #166

Religion is for IDIOTS! penndragon69 Mar 2013 #167

Amen! Walk away Mar 2013 #181

Shouldn't this read you WERE a Catholic? nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2013 #174

Amen. McCamy Taylor Mar 2013 #177

After I took a 'History of Western Civilizations' course... Blanks Mar 2013 #178