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glinda

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60. Let me clarify my statement. The whole hype in print and Media is primarily given

Sun Mar 31, 2013, 11:08 AM

Mar 2013

focus to this idea of "Traditionalist Catholics" which I am saying is a manufactured concept in regards to their numbers and importance. What I am saying is that it is not conservative regular Catholics that are running the Media show and getting the press...it is, I suspect, politically motivated by a small number of people with deep political pockets. This is my guess knowing many Catholics of all stripes and positions and not hearing any complaints (about his recent actions that are in discussion here) about the new Pope. Almost all the Press and discussion is somehow creating this "non-existant _at least in numbers" complaint group.

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Wonkette: New Pope Already Pissing Off The Santorum Wing Of The Catholic Church [View all] Pirate Smile Mar 2013 OP

Excellent article! LiberalLoner Mar 2013 #1

Explained well as only Wonkette can. Pirate Smile Mar 2013 #2

K & R with a note.... Wounded Bear Mar 2013 #3

I sound like Pam Geller when criticizing the Catholic Religion? trumad Mar 2013 #4

Yes, but when the Pope calls me Satanic, that means he's really liberal and tolerant.... Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #11

exactly. new pope is apparently every liberal's grandpa.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #61

Wow, such casual dismissal of the vicious hate speech about gay people. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #5

this is an interesting article cali Mar 2013 #7

Pope Francis says adoption by gay parents is discrimination against the adopted child. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #9

Before he could come out and say gay is good . . . caseymoz Mar 2013 #52

Sorry, it is not hard to 'wrap you head around' it. He is wrong and persists in his wrongness Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #58

bravo!! Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #63

Thank you. NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #71

Except for your title. caseymoz Apr 2013 #74

Sadly "left leaning" leaders get a pass on this sort of shit. joshcryer Mar 2013 #44

Yeah, Le Taz Hot Mar 2013 #54

Jesus has nothing in common with christian conservatives. JaneyVee Mar 2013 #6

"I come not in peace, but with a sword; I have come to [set families apart]. --Jesus Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2013 #83

Dear Wonkette, do unto others, dear. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #8

I keep the hope this guy will deal with the issues nadinbrzezinski Mar 2013 #10

Anyone who pisses off Santorum's wing and the Curia is great in my book. Beacool Mar 2013 #12

Frank and Rick are united against gay people. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #15

Have you got a better link? That one took me to a page full of ugly results. freshwest Mar 2013 #37

Sorry about that. Beacool Apr 2013 #79

Thanks, that was a lot better! freshwest Apr 2013 #82

Eloquently stated, n/t Cleita Mar 2013 #13

just to be sure i understand sigmasix Mar 2013 #14

that's right! Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #64

"..when some of you talk about the Catholic Church, you sound like Pam Gellar talking about Muslins" Richardo Mar 2013 #16

Leading by example! KauaiK Mar 2013 #17

So, change is coming, bit it will be slow. We'll know it when it gets here honey, toby jo Mar 2013 #18

That Opus Deis(?) wing will be watching to see he doesn't go to far. They may spike his tea southernyankeebelle Mar 2013 #19

Dear Santorum Wing.....you have nothing to fear because this Pope's TRUE beliefs are no different... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #20

because performance IS the Pope's job BainsBane Mar 2013 #22

And then writes documents and gives speeches backing up the SOS of RCC policy.... OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #39

i don't think any of us will be living *that* long.. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #65

She's been spending time on DU BainsBane Mar 2013 #21

You don't have to spend time on DU to know what the RCC policies are on LBGTs and women. nt. OldDem2012 Mar 2013 #41

Opus Dei ElboRuum Mar 2013 #23

"Then they ain't Christians." sylvi Mar 2013 #24

That's great. Just fits perfect. Pirate Smile Mar 2013 #25

Might the Man in White learn a thing or three from the Man in Black? n/t eridani Mar 2013 #36

Great article treestar Mar 2013 #26

Really good article, Pirate Smile! Thank you! n/t Cha Mar 2013 #27

I got to the "sorry, gays" offal and stopped reading. Occulus Apr 2013 #85

I have been wondering lately, if you should ask God makes mistakes I would think they would eeply no Thinkingabout Mar 2013 #28

This Wonketter person embodies that disdain. Note how she dismisses the Pope's anti gay speech. Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #29

it's all a very slow process, and still it's moving awfully fast. Kurovski Mar 2013 #30

There is no such thing as a Traditionalist Catholic in any numbers. It is a private hate group IMHO. glinda Mar 2013 #31

That doesn't mean what you think it means Bucky Mar 2013 #42

Let me clarify my statement. The whole hype in print and Media is primarily given glinda Mar 2013 #60

I'd be interested to know more about how he got elected. snot Mar 2013 #32

I'm sorry, but this man has spoken vile, heinous lies which strongly indicate that he Zorra Mar 2013 #33

Well said Zorra. I note that none of Francis' defenders can answer you or anyone with facts at hand Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #59

bravo!! Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #66

We Catholics better watch out, he might start hanging out with tax collectors next. WHEN CRABS ROAR Mar 2013 #34

If any Pope ever does something about protecting pedophiles-- eridani Mar 2013 #35

Everyday I get more hopeful. Betsy Ross Mar 2013 #38

Heh "I'm Jewish and like the Pope; Santorum is Catholic and doesn't." n/t Pirate Smile Mar 2013 #40

You and me both, Betsy. Hekate Mar 2013 #49

very well written. progress does not mean perfection as long as the movement is forward not backward Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #43

The "traditionalists" better not read anything Jesus is supposed to have said. Marr Mar 2013 #45

This is all well and good TlalocW Mar 2013 #46

I agree BainsBane Mar 2013 #47

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I Am Not Catholic So I Will Defer To Wonkette On "Inside Baseball" DallasNE Mar 2013 #50

33 Days MFM008 Mar 2013 #51

Nice rant! 4_TN_TITANS Mar 2013 #53

For the first time in almost 50 years, a Pope is finally LISTENING to Catholic progressives! ColesCountyDem Mar 2013 #55

Yeah, ridiculous article. Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #56

Thanks for posting this! Several of my posts were hidden when I said the haters here are like Gman Mar 2013 #57

But she defends and dismisses the hate speech from Francis toward gay people even as she wails about Bluenorthwest Mar 2013 #62

i wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a response. Phillip McCleod Mar 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author Gman Mar 2013 #70

Why did you conflate/compare being LGBT with the act of adultery? Zorra Mar 2013 #72

My reference to the adulteress is simply to point out Gman Mar 2013 #73

Kind of like one of those, "hate the sin, not the sinner" things? nt Zorra Apr 2013 #84

While I technically agree with your objection, the comparison is far more offensive... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #76

You teach kids hatred? Why the fuck do you think you belong on this board? n/t Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #75

I've been here since long before you even knew this place existed Gman Apr 2013 #77

Only because you have been keeping your homophobic opinions to yourself until now... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #80

this pope is way better than the last guy RedstDem Mar 2013 #67

De Klerk was pro-Apartheid until right around the time he became President Hippo_Tron Mar 2013 #69

Beautifully put. nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2013 #78

Well that wasn't dismissive at all... LadyHawkAZ Apr 2013 #81