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marions ghost

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15. Answering to your points:
Fri Apr 5, 2013, 11:22 AM
Apr 2013

1. People are profoundly pissed off but don't see mass protest as effective.

2. Working Americans are not lazy. Most don't have the leisure time to make a hobby of standing out in front of town hall with a sign. (Bless the ones who do).

3. Save the Rainforest. It's not hurting large single issue protests. Large single issue protests are being ignored. Ecological issues are economic.

4. We don't live in the Nixon Era. Overwhelming numbers used to be scary to politicians. Now they love it--gives them even more sense of omnipotence. They take it as a sign they are doing something RIGHT if people are squeezed enough to protest. And nothing changes.

5. "Dignified" protests are laughed it. Even mildly confrontational protests are suppressed by force. Violence isn't worth discussing. We will need to be more creative.

They have an agenda that will make them trillions; their goal is to keep us passive while they HiPointDem Apr 2013 #1
+100 nt antigop Apr 2013 #20
+10000 woo me with science Apr 2013 #47
+1 HiPointDem Apr 2013 #73
Exactly. Definite +1!! nt tpsbmam Apr 2013 #99
They are going to do what they want to do. Autumn Apr 2013 #2
Agree...BUT....one last time is important. If Obama chooses KoKo Apr 2013 #6
I've signed that one too. Autumn Apr 2013 #7
K&R for direct action PETRUS Apr 2013 #3
Here's something we can actually do: calimary Apr 2013 #46
If that's their greatest fear, you'd think "they" wouldn't piss so many people off. MADem Apr 2013 #4
60 million people voted for Romney ProSense Apr 2013 #12
Answering to your points: marions ghost Apr 2013 #15
Protest is not the answer, it is a distraction. zeemike Apr 2013 #26
We have every reason to be scared marions ghost Apr 2013 #58
Which is the whole point of the dire consequences. zeemike Apr 2013 #66
Even if you suffer dire consequences marions ghost Apr 2013 #67
Well Gandhi and MLK made it work. zeemike Apr 2013 #68
They have us where they want us marions ghost Apr 2013 #70
Yep zeemike Apr 2013 #72
It is called . . . MOMFUDSKI Apr 2013 #82
The problem is, we practically ARE in the Fifties now..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #87
That is the only thing that would get attention. Nt abelenkpe Apr 2013 #101
You can't have the fifties back marions ghost Apr 2013 #118
+10 n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #111
Bingo! sikofit3 Apr 2013 #120
And welcome to DU. zeemike Apr 2013 #122
So how many more months until November 2014? Nineteen! xtraxritical Apr 2013 #35
Elections marions ghost Apr 2013 #50
So what does that leave, Occupy? xtraxritical Apr 2013 #127
No idea what it leaves us marions ghost Apr 2013 #134
I occupied Washington D,C. 2011/11/11 Freedom Plaza. xtraxritical Apr 2013 #136
Thank you marions ghost Apr 2013 #139
I haven't seen an effective protest since the Vietnam War. MADem Apr 2013 #74
You are living in the past marions ghost Apr 2013 #119
The Keystone Pipeline protest in DC was Massive and no "Free Mumia" KoKo Apr 2013 #130
First of all C-Span marions ghost Apr 2013 #133
I think Keystone moves to Local Protests. Some landowners KoKo Apr 2013 #138
Targeted local protests can be effective marions ghost Apr 2013 #140
Maybe, but I haven't seen anyone come up with a better idea. MADem Apr 2013 #143
"We need to be more creative." woo me with science Apr 2013 #77
We have a whole generation who have been militarized, not educated. dotymed Apr 2013 #126
Your remarks are inaccurate. The military is drawing down, even as we speak. MADem Apr 2013 #144
Yes, our military is currently "being drawn down." dotymed Apr 2013 #147
Most of our young people have never served in the military. MADem Apr 2013 #148
K&R! EVERYBODY needs to read this. tblue Apr 2013 #5
I agree marions ghost Apr 2013 #8
They know what we think - and want - and don't give a shit. Myrina Apr 2013 #9
du rec. nt xchrom Apr 2013 #10
Are you ProSense Apr 2013 #11
You will know them by what they do. 99Forever Apr 2013 #17
Mass protest ProSense Apr 2013 #25
What mass protests "worked to stop Bush" ? marions ghost Apr 2013 #30
Maybe, I'm ProSense Apr 2013 #31
I don't think there was mass protest marions ghost Apr 2013 #63
Sadly, what Wall Street believes is reality. Bake Apr 2013 #141
Already have. 99Forever Apr 2013 #39
So whats your solution? demwing Apr 2013 #18
The best way ProSense Apr 2013 #21
"If Senate Democrats are serious" demwing Apr 2013 #27
I have ProSense Apr 2013 #28
Yes...the "Grand Bargain" demwing Apr 2013 #33
Maybe that's ProSense Apr 2013 #40
Let me predict what will happen your way. zeemike Apr 2013 #32
"good cop bad cop" is exactly what is going on. n/t L0oniX Apr 2013 #45
Even the Tea Partiers aren't happy about the Monsanto Protection Act starroute Apr 2013 #44
+10000 Becoming the 99 percent is our only hope. woo me with science Apr 2013 #79
^^^THIS^^^ tpsbmam Apr 2013 #104
I know when I call and write that it won't do any good. The fix is in. forestpath Apr 2013 #13
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2013 #78
Quite true-- in fact, this President has worn our anger like a badge. Marr Apr 2013 #14
This Sucks notundecided Apr 2013 #16
The mass public needs to be managed OnyxCollie Apr 2013 #19
We don't need a leader. We need a movement. Herlong Apr 2013 #92
2016: " two more corporate candidates selected by those who own this country," antigop Apr 2013 #22
k&R. Thanks, woo. nt antigop Apr 2013 #23
we cant change it if we keep voting for it and falling for the dems vs repubs propaganda xiamiam Apr 2013 #24
Agree very much. And the whole notion that truedelphi Apr 2013 #109
It doesn't matter what PBO fredamae Apr 2013 #29
Ever wonder why the repubs ran such heinous candidates? Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #34
+1 woo me with science Apr 2013 #36
"Privatizing public schools and protecting banks are just gravy. " --you forgot to add antigop Apr 2013 #37
Privatizing schools Herlong Apr 2013 #97
Bad idea for teaching children. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #149
Actually Nite Owl Apr 2013 #60
Yep. "It took Nixon to go to China" = "It takes Obama to cut Social Security". whathehell Apr 2013 #110
Y'all don't understand. Its over. Stonepounder Apr 2013 #38
Sadly, I agree with you. davidthegnome Apr 2013 #52
I'm sorry, but unfortunately that is EXACTLY what TPTB want us to think, fellas. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #86
I agree with you. Those messages might as well come from the other side Bluenorthwest Apr 2013 #124
No one is telling you to be quiet. davidthegnome Apr 2013 #145
I'm just speaking the truth as it is, that's all. We can't let our pessimism rule us. AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #146
the only thing that will work is dragging them out into the streets. datasuspect Apr 2013 #53
From the Declaration of Independence... fredzachmane Apr 2013 #93
That's what I think, too. FiveGoodMen Apr 2013 #56
Angry Rec. progressoid Apr 2013 #41
Laurie Penny, whose article you quote, was in New York at the height of Occupy starroute Apr 2013 #42
^^^nt green for victory Apr 2013 #43
Very Well Said... creativebliss Apr 2013 #48
Hello ~ creativebliss In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #55
Thank you! creativebliss Apr 2013 #57
If you have any questions lots of very nice DUers are always around to help. In_The_Wind Apr 2013 #59
K&R and bookmarked n/t OneGrassRoot Apr 2013 #49
Let's look ahead watoos Apr 2013 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Apr 2013 #105
"They are not interested in hearing what we think, but in managing our anger:" +1,000,000 Auggie Apr 2013 #54
Have you noticed that there are Nite Owl Apr 2013 #61
Yup. woo me with science Apr 2013 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Apr 2013 #98
This Is One of the Best Posts I've Ever Read on DU. cer7711 Apr 2013 #62
I hear ya! But, I have some hope... KoKo Apr 2013 #128
I think we have to hope that the 1% start turning on each other and start to eat their own. nt antigop Apr 2013 #64
greed has a way of doing that. nt antigop Apr 2013 #65
Flip side. Happening always Herlong Apr 2013 #106
The one percent don't eat their own Herlong Apr 2013 #107
K & R !!! WillyT Apr 2013 #69
Absolutely Correct Cedric the Clam Apr 2013 #75
And if we march the complicit media will Nite Owl Apr 2013 #90
EXACTLY marions ghost Apr 2013 #135
Like it or not we are living under modern technocratic corporate-theocratic fascism. Lint Head Apr 2013 #76
It's hard not to sink into apathy. But, this is the MOMENT... KoKo Apr 2013 #129
K&R! MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #80
I have noticed how easily the majority is ignored. Cleita Apr 2013 #81
DURec leftstreet Apr 2013 #83
They know what we think and event want, they just don't give a shit UBEEDelusional Apr 2013 #84
We have been betrayed. decayincl Apr 2013 #85
Remember, Marx was right..... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #88
Nailed it. ljm2002 Apr 2013 #89
Money spent on 2012 election 4.2 billion fredzachmane Apr 2013 #91
So, BHO is a Corporatist Trojan Horse dressed up in faux Populism. A wolf in sheep's clothing. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #94
I'll say this, there's little stomach to pay for Wall Street's screw ups Babel_17 Apr 2013 #95
Lee Fang of The Nation octoberlib Apr 2013 #96
+1...a good read...and yes...getting rid of "Citzens United" is KoKo Apr 2013 #142
Thank you for this link. woo me with science Apr 2013 #150
K&R a2liberal Apr 2013 #100
No truer words jsr Apr 2013 #102
I love you, woo. This is spot on, as most of your posts are. tpsbmam Apr 2013 #103
Great posts locks Apr 2013 #108
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2013 #112
Recommended (#188) H2O Man Apr 2013 #113
The militarization of the police... KansDem Apr 2013 #114
Time to out rule private sourced codes to process our votes.... midnight Apr 2013 #115
K&R n/t myrna minx Apr 2013 #116
I am as concerned as anyone on this site - believe me. AnnieK401 Apr 2013 #117
The worry is that even if it doesn't pass the Senate..It's on the Table KoKo Apr 2013 #131
I love Laurie Penny, she hits the nail on the head. But it was predictable when sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #121
True boomerbust Apr 2013 #123
Our economic system switched nineteen50 Apr 2013 #125
This is easy to explain with a Marxian analysis...... socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #132
"almost medieval" marions ghost Apr 2013 #137
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