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cali

(114,904 posts) Tue Apr 9, 2013, 10:16 AM Apr 2013

Quite aside from the debate on gun control, what the fuck is wrong with people [View all]

who don't secure their guns? Yet another story about a small child getting his hands on a loaded gun and shooting someone.

Police: 6-Year-Old Accidentally Shot by 4-Year-Old

Authorities are deciding whether to charge anyone after police say a 6-year-old was shot in the head by a 4-year-old in New Jersey.

The older boy is in serious condition.

Authorities are still investigating how the younger child obtained the .22-caliber rifle from his family's Toms River home Monday
night.

Police Chief Michael Mastronardy says the children were outside the 4-year-old's home when the boy went inside, got the rifle and shot the 6-year-old about 15 yards away. It's not clear if the 4-year-old pulled the trigger or if the rifle accidentally discharged.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-year-accidentally-shot-year-18912094#.UWQh_kqsp7k

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Quite aside from the debate on gun control, what the fuck is wrong with people [View all] cali Apr 2013 OP

Every one an avoidable tragedy pipoman Apr 2013 #1

They believe that they're not like everyone else. Thye're the rare *good* gun owners. baldguy Apr 2013 #2

Since more than 30,000 die in auto accidents then as a group they are irresponsible. former9thward Apr 2013 #9

You seek logic? pipoman Apr 2013 #13

Where's the National Drivers Association* to campaign against seat belts, licenses & speed limits? baldguy Apr 2013 #17

False statements are false too. former9thward Apr 2013 #18

The NRA sets the agenda - and you follow them right along to promote their propaganda. baldguy Apr 2013 #19

You are an auto driver. former9thward Apr 2013 #20

I don't think that horse is going to take you any further. baldguy Apr 2013 #28

"NRA sets the agenda" and the poster follows "to promote their propaganda." Important, if true. AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #26

You don't think the NRA sets the agenda? baldguy Apr 2013 #29

NRA needs to step up and, for all those reponsible gun owners, do the responsible thing Hoyt Apr 2013 #53

If you hadn't already established a reputation for bashing the NRA (of which I am not a member), AnotherMcIntosh Apr 2013 #54

All the NRA is doing is contributing heavily to those who support their gun agenda Hoyt Apr 2013 #55

Everybody always thinks THEY'RE the exception. nt raccoon Apr 2013 #64

People don't secure their guns because they are not nearly as "responsible" as they tell us. Hoyt Apr 2013 #3

LOL...you guys... pipoman Apr 2013 #14

Guess you forgot all the other shootings by so-called law-abiding/responsible gun cultists. Hoyt Apr 2013 #15

Why not give us those numbers, eh? pipoman Apr 2013 #21

Why waste time, you and your buddies have indicated you'll carry/accumulate guns no matter what. Hoyt Apr 2013 #22

You're right, it is a waste of time. Maybe because the data isn't there. Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #23

Question, If Eleanor Roosevelt supposedly carried Bushmaster.223, would Eleanor223 be your username? Hoyt Apr 2013 #24

Uuum, the poetic ring sounds a little junky by comparison... Eleanors38 Apr 2013 #63

Why don't you point to where pipoman Apr 2013 #27

I am more worried about cans of beans Riftaxe Apr 2013 #30

Maybe if the parents were charged HockeyMom Apr 2013 #4

Serious jail time mainstreetonce Apr 2013 #5

I would agree pipoman Apr 2013 #10

Complacency kills sarisataka Apr 2013 #6

We took our kids shooting regularly pipoman Apr 2013 #50

I believe in removing the mystique sarisataka Apr 2013 #56

I agree.. pipoman Apr 2013 #59

I would like to see a Democrat propose a bill... kentuck Apr 2013 #7

Wouldn't it make sense then pipoman Apr 2013 #11

Sure you can do a background check, go to your local gun store. Simple. Hoyt Apr 2013 #31

They are not required to do them.. pipoman Apr 2013 #32

Tell them it is "responsible" thing to do, and you won't come back if they Hoyt Apr 2013 #33

You really don't want to find a solution pipoman Apr 2013 #35

Gave you a simple solution. What is problem with it and why don't gun cultists step up? Hoyt Apr 2013 #36

Oh it's a simple solution alright..simple it is.. pipoman Apr 2013 #37

You don't really care about ensuring a safe transfer, do you? Hoyt Apr 2013 #39

lol pipoman Apr 2013 #40

Step up, or admit you don't care as long as you walk away with fist full of cash. Hoyt Apr 2013 #41

You don't know me or what you're talking about.. pipoman Apr 2013 #42

Your using data base would be invasion of privacy, no accountability, sloppy record keeping, etc. Hoyt Apr 2013 #44

That is exactly what I said above... pipoman Apr 2013 #48

You said you do not have a way to do background check, I said you do - go to FFL. Hoyt Apr 2013 #49

Yes, and I said FFLs are not required to do private sale background checks pipoman Apr 2013 #51

And I said if FFL refuses, have all the gunners tell the store they ain't coming back Hoyt Apr 2013 #52

Or we could simply require them to do it.. pipoman Apr 2013 #60

Why sit on one's ass until the law is passed. You can force them to do it, assuming they won't. Hoyt Apr 2013 #62

"Police are deciding whether to charge anyone..." Recursion Apr 2013 #8

Not as good though, pipoman Apr 2013 #12

Three factors: 1. Basic stupidity. 2. Lack of training. 3. A false sense that their children... slackmaster Apr 2013 #16

As a gun owner, I consider proper security to be intrinsic to that ownership. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2013 #25

Admirable. Hoyt Apr 2013 #34

Unfortunately, not a new story. CBHagman Apr 2013 #38

I suppose it depends on your definition of appalling.. pipoman Apr 2013 #47

Deaths. CBHagman Apr 2013 #57

You stated the accidental child death rate from guns is "appalling" pipoman Apr 2013 #58

In a country of 310 million people, some people will screw up. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #43

like playing with their gun. Hoyt Apr 2013 #45

In a nation of 310 million people, some will do that. GreenStormCloud Apr 2013 #46

17,000 children injured annually Crepuscular Apr 2013 #61