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Samantha

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32. I have a postscript to the post below answering your thoughts above

Thu Apr 11, 2013, 09:31 PM

Apr 2013

It is obviously true the Fix the Debt billionaires have a lot of influence with the events of these days. But the one thing that might be considered a redeeming factor in President Obama's favor is his caveat that saved revenue from the chained CPI must be accompanied by new revenue the Republicans agree to which would include for instance higher taxes for the wealthy and spending for infrastructure to increase jobs. The higher taxes for the wealthy one would think would have to adversely impact the Fix the Debt billionaires. So if the Republicans do not agree, no chained CPI.

Would this be your understanding? If so, perhaps Fix the Debt does not have the stranglehold I suggested below.

Sam

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Rather than dancing with those that "brung" him, Obama eyes making a deal with the Devil [View all] Samantha Apr 2013 OP

Well said and I share your opinion. forestpath Apr 2013 #1

Last night, Chris Hayes said there was not the same public opposition shown to this issue Samantha Apr 2013 #4

Very disingenous of him. Polls show overwhelming opposition even though SS cuts have not forestpath Apr 2013 #6

It is staggering, isn't it Samantha Apr 2013 #11

Multi dimensional chess pscot Apr 2013 #61

Of course - why didn't I think of that? Samantha Apr 2013 #63

Intergalactic GO` Newest Reality Apr 2013 #76

Yes, it is disingenuous of him. But we have to remember that no one who goes against the sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #77

He knows who butters his bread. UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #23

Larry O'Donnell went out of his way last night to point snappyturtle Apr 2013 #52

I don't think I have seen many DU'ers say President Obama is the only Democratic President Samantha Apr 2013 #53

Thanks Samantha for your thoughtful reply. I guess I've caught remarks snappyturtle Apr 2013 #60

I purposely waited for awhile to respond to you because I knew you were sincere Samantha Apr 2013 #62

I don't regret voting for the President twice either...far from it. snappyturtle Apr 2013 #65

That is becoming more and more obvious every single day Samantha Apr 2013 #64

It's sounds almost comical... UnrepentantLiberal Apr 2013 #71

Absolutely. Gun control & immigration reform are distractors. Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #42

I posted that somewhere here on DU that I do not think this is a coincidence these 3 issues Samantha Apr 2013 #45

Absolutely right. CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2013 #2

Thank you - I braced myself when I hit "Post" for a lot of flaming Samantha Apr 2013 #5

No flaming from me. dgibby Apr 2013 #8

I think the Sensible Ones, the Large Conifers, Crackers for Whatever, and the lot are worn down Jackpine Radical Apr 2013 #43

Maybe they know me pretty well - been around since 2001 Samantha Apr 2013 #44

K&R MotherPetrie Apr 2013 #3

there are many good things in the budget treestar Apr 2013 #7

Then perhaps you should start one. n/t dgibby Apr 2013 #9

Those issues are not connected to Social Security Samantha Apr 2013 #10

There is no controversy? treestar Apr 2013 #16

+100 PennsylvaniaMatt Apr 2013 #30

Why is that relevant? Apparently the President knew that the GOP would not accept any budget sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #50

Social Security benefits, unemployment benefits, food stamps Samantha Apr 2013 #56

Just too simple and obvious! maddiemom Apr 2013 #68

Some simply don't understand what Obama is truly about. duffyduff Apr 2013 #79

Actually, he's pitching deals to the Devil. JVS Apr 2013 #12

That is true, but I dove for the alliteration to attract attention Samantha Apr 2013 #13

Agree...there's no way this isn't going to hurt the Dem Party... KoKo Apr 2013 #14

It is stunning to dissect Samantha Apr 2013 #15

As I've thought more about it..Why do the Trial Balloon on this KoKo Apr 2013 #22

The more you think about it, the more murkier it becomes Samantha Apr 2013 #31

Thanks for that link.......it's very interesting... KoKo Apr 2013 #33

I missed that thread but it is very interesting Samantha Apr 2013 #34

On the "Fix the Debt" Source Watch Link.... KoKo Apr 2013 #38

How comforting it is to know the cast of characters constituting our shadow government Samantha Apr 2013 #54

I have a postscript to the post below answering your thoughts above Samantha Apr 2013 #32

Going to Source Watch....and looking at the cast of characters KoKo Apr 2013 #39

We are now Wisconsin? Samantha Apr 2013 #66

Yes...we are Wisconsin.... KoKo Apr 2013 #67

or it all may be a smokescreen to give the corporations what they really want antigop Apr 2013 #36

Seems to be the plan sadly.... KoKo Apr 2013 #40

I don't think this will end well. The question is...what will take its place afterwards? nt antigop Apr 2013 #41

William Greider said, "At the end of the day, Social Security will not be cut. " antigop Apr 2013 #51

Didn't you just post a link to a thread which says the chained CPI has passed in the house? Samantha Apr 2013 #47

I don't think it passed the House. I wish TPM would have posted a roll call. nt antigop Apr 2013 #48

It's the hypocrisy of the NRCC Chairman who said it was an "attack on seniors", yet he voted for it. antigop Apr 2013 #49

I'ts more than a betrayal of his base. It's a betrayal of the entire country. nt magical thyme Apr 2013 #17

Yes, it is Samantha Apr 2013 #18

Indeed...already they are coming out Against It...like THEY KoKo Apr 2013 #25

I have always been a big supporter of Obama, but not so much anymore. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #26

It's easily explained by the fact that many of his appointments and advisors xtraxritical Apr 2013 #70

At least Warren is a gem. She is fighting for us. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #72

I would love to see her on the Democratic ticket in 2016 as the VP candidate Samantha Apr 2013 #73

I would too. Would also like to see Al Frnken on the ticket. smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #74

He is a real Democrat but he seems to prefer a really low profile Samantha Apr 2013 #75

Well it is now cringe-worthy Samantha Apr 2013 #27

He never had the right to agree to it, it is NOT his to bargain with. That fund is not in trouble, sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #69

I thought it was our side which advocated for those tax loophole changes in his budget bigtree Apr 2013 #19

You do not mean the tax subsidies to Big Oil and other corporations do you? Samantha Apr 2013 #20

And since SS has nothing to do with the deficit, it's positively Hellish. grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #21

I think that is why everyone is pretty hot under the collar about it! Samantha Apr 2013 #24

Great post jsr Apr 2013 #28

Funny thing jsr Samantha Apr 2013 #29

just fyi...a month ago, half the House GOP voted for chained CPI antigop Apr 2013 #35

I got so excited when I read your thread I posted on it instead coming back here! Samantha Apr 2013 #46

Satan Sandwiches for the 99 Percent. blkmusclmachine Apr 2013 #37

We needed a little humor added to this thread Samantha Apr 2013 #57

When the Devil is in control of the House it hard to ignore him. DCBob Apr 2013 #55

I guess we have to work toward a political exorcism in 2014 Samantha Apr 2013 #58

exactly what we need! DCBob Apr 2013 #59

It's not a bluff. Obama has been in favor of "fixing" Social Security duffyduff Apr 2013 #78

During the debates, I heard President Obama say to Mitt Romney words to the effect Samantha Apr 2013 #80

You describe the betrayal very well. woo me with science Apr 2013 #81

Thank you - I have a question for you Samantha Apr 2013 #82