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21. it's really a not so subtle bigotry

Reply to bhikkhu (Reply #17)

Sat Feb 4, 2012, 03:39 PM

Feb 2012

those people couldn't be taking matters into their own hands i mean they are after all those people.

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A Torrent of Disinformation : The NeoCon Propaganda Machine Pushing “Regime Change” in Syria [View all] stockholmer Feb 2012 OP

So hundreds of Syrians weren't killed yesterday by Assad's regime? joshcryer Feb 2012 #1

If there were defecting military units in America, we'd have thousands of people killed here, too. leveymg Feb 2012 #5

Stick to your guns because that is the right question! JackRiddler Feb 2012 #14

if my uncle had a vagina he'd be my aunt nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #25

A small percentage of military folks go Absent WithOut Leave every year. No one dies. stevenleser Feb 2012 #30

The US doesn't typically lay siege to cities that are protesting against the government. joshcryer Feb 2012 #55

well, the neocon checklist is almost complete... inna Feb 2012 #2

Thanks for reminding us of that. It's also similar to the "A Clean Break" (1997) neocon hit list leveymg Feb 2012 #11

Thank you for this important reminder. nt woo me with science Feb 2012 #13

Whatever the neocons are/aren't doing, the Syrian people are certainly pushing for 'regime change'. pampango Feb 2012 #3

The "Syrian people" are divided, and the regime is predominantly Shi'ia. It's a religious civil war leveymg Feb 2012 #6

I want "to take sides" with anyone who a voice in deciding who governs the country. pampango Feb 2012 #7

Syria is as unlike Tunisia as Iran is to Egypt The "Arab Spring" isn't a one-size-fits-all popular leveymg Feb 2012 #9

So it comes down to a brutal dictator or "a genocide waiting to happen". pampango Feb 2012 #10

Those who just want freedom are often the first sacrificed in struggles between ruthless parties leveymg Feb 2012 #12

Allawi, not Shia. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #80

Alawi IS a Shia sect. leveymg Feb 2012 #100

Yeah but they are considered a break away sect nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #101

Same difference. leveymg Feb 2012 #102

Not in Syria or to Syrians. nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #103

I don't want to get into Intra-Shi'ia theological or doctrinal questions here. leveymg Feb 2012 #104

Nope this is not the place nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #105

Well who the hell is killing all the protestors there? Swede Feb 2012 #4

That small segment of the anti-war crowd frames everything as "US is bad and is behind this" stevenleser Feb 2012 #28

U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups, cables released by WikiLeaks show ronnie624 Feb 2012 #98

Is the killing of protestors verifiable? n/t ronnie624 Feb 2012 #97

"unrec" for link to counterpuke MH1 Feb 2012 #8

How convenient for you, blanket dismissal of a publication with about 50 diverse authors. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #15

Your argument can be completely flipped, we also dismiss Free Republic which has dozens of diverse stevenleser Feb 2012 #31

Can be and should be are two different things. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #39

CR can be summarized quite easily. stevenleser Feb 2012 #42

1, 2 and 5 are pretty much true... JackRiddler Feb 2012 #46

I used to love it, back in 2003 hfojvt Feb 2012 #37

"counterpuke" to some, one of the best sources to others. inna Feb 2012 #16

You don't believe the U.S. has a plan for World domination? rudycantfail Feb 2012 #18

Absolutely - starting with Afghanistan bhikkhu Feb 2012 #26

...a lesson nobody seems to rudycantfail Feb 2012 #38

So is "gay girl in Damascus" thrown in there to justify the "disinformation" tag? bhikkhu Feb 2012 #17

What do you think happened in Libya? rudycantfail Feb 2012 #19

NATO and the US helped a popular revolution overthrow a brutal dictator bhikkhu Feb 2012 #24

Your last phrase is the key. To one particular segment of the anti-war crowd it is all about us and stevenleser Feb 2012 #32

Libya was rudycantfail Feb 2012 #35

it's really a not so subtle bigotry arely staircase Feb 2012 #21

It is but with these folks it is unintentional. They have tunnel vision aimed at blaming the US for stevenleser Feb 2012 #34

i know it isn't intentional arely staircase Feb 2012 #36

If you're looking to bomb it, you own a piece of the war. JackRiddler Feb 2012 #40

We hate America first rudycantfail Feb 2012 #41

If you are part of the crowd I am talking about? Yes. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #43

SUPPORT THE TROOPS rudycantfail Feb 2012 #45

your the one who seems to be supporting some troops nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #49

Fight em over there so we don't have to fight em over here, right? rudycantfail Feb 2012 #48

You can prattle off all the straw men you want.It still wont make my argument what you want it to be stevenleser Feb 2012 #54

There's nothing wrong with rudycantfail Feb 2012 #56

There is nothing wrong with my ignore list either! Enjoy it! nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #58

Okay, but before you do rudycantfail Feb 2012 #59

No, the bigotry is in thinking that those 'poor people' can't have a Revolution without Western sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #61

if by interference you mean helping people remove the man who is murdering them in the streets arely staircase Feb 2012 #63

Well, if you held that position for all the decades the US supported the Assad regime, sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #65

sure, quaddafi's death was horrific. it was certainly recoil-worthy arely staircase Feb 2012 #66

"Bahrain is a bloodbath" = patently dishonest. 60 deaths = 0.004% Bahrain population. joshcryer Feb 2012 #69

Ok I need to ask, when did the Hafez Al Assad regime become nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #81

The "gay girl in Damascus" hoax ronnie624 Feb 2012 #99

the syrians seem to be pushing it too arely staircase Feb 2012 #20

"The syrians seem to be pushing it too" rudycantfail Feb 2012 #44

enough that the government is mowing them down in the streets yet they keep showing up arely staircase Feb 2012 #47

Do you think our government rudycantfail Feb 2012 #50

whichever is more effective. nt arely staircase Feb 2012 #51

When you say "our government helping them do it" rudycantfail Feb 2012 #52

is that the most effective way to help the syrians rid themselves of th butcher assad? arely staircase Feb 2012 #53

I appreciate your honesty. n/t rudycantfail Feb 2012 #57

This really is nonsense. Unfortunately, some of the anti-war folks are obsessed with making stevenleser Feb 2012 #22

Right BeFree Feb 2012 #27

That you resort to creating straw men tells everyone all they need to know. stevenleser Feb 2012 #29

LOL, tell me about it! Who is supposed to fall for that, BTW? Poll_Blind Feb 2012 #33

"That everything is the US' fault and is somehow about us." That is not a "philosophy", Fool Count Feb 2012 #60

Hahahaha! Hilarious. Next time though, use the sarcasm tag. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #64

US doesn't support democracy in Latin America = bad. Supports it in Middle East = bad. joshcryer Feb 2012 #70

If US supported democracy in Middle East, they would be starting with their "friends" - Fool Count Feb 2012 #91

Qatar: Elections in 2013. Jordan: Prime Minister resigned Feb 1st, move to implement democracy. joshcryer Feb 2012 #92

"Having independent dialog for reforms"? What the hell does it even mean? Fool Count Feb 2012 #95

Heh, the insults continue. joshcryer Feb 2012 #96

Why do Americans think that other nations are not capable of solving their own problems? sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #62

No one thinks that. The US doesn't get involved in most disputes. stevenleser Feb 2012 #67

Well, in a way you make the point made by many observers. The US, while claiming to care sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #72

Funny how a lot of the incoherence becomes explicable... woo me with science Feb 2012 #78

The US also supported Ben Ali, Mubarak, Gaddafi. Maybe the key element is internal uprising, huh? joshcryer Feb 2012 #71

Maybe let the Bahrainis speak for themselves: sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #74

They already are speaking for themselves as the independent dialogue shows. joshcryer Feb 2012 #76

Dead Bahrainis are as dead as dead people anywhere else. What is remarkable is how selective sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #79

All people living under autocrats deserve to be free. joshcryer Feb 2012 #83

So go complain about the ones the US is *supporting*. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #85

I have. See my sig. This OP is about Syria. This OP is showing the bias. joshcryer Feb 2012 #86

Well, there's not much chance of those living under our very good friend, Karamov eg, of ever being sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #87

"ever" is a long time, Karamov will die, they will show self-determination. joshcryer Feb 2012 #88

You are mistaken if you think there is no support for the Syrians. You conflate interference and sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #93

I think there is ample support for the Syrians from those who don't invoke... joshcryer Feb 2012 #94

There is no doubt in my mind western spec ops are nadinbrzezinski Feb 2012 #82

btw i hope the us government is helping topple ASSad arely staircase Feb 2012 #23

The West is Bad, The West is Evil, Blah, Blah, Blah... Odin2005 Feb 2012 #68

"...a deliberate and calculated campaign to bring down the Assad government..." unkachuck Feb 2012 #73

Is it considered liberal or conservative to support hundreds of thousands of demonstrators pampango Feb 2012 #75

Never understood jeanpalmer Feb 2012 #77

You should be ashamed of yourself. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #84

There are different ways of looking at Western "help." jeanpalmer Feb 2012 #89

I'm afraid I think this post contains at least two really silly statements. Donald Ian Rankin Feb 2012 #90