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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts) Wed Apr 17, 2013, 04:27 PM Apr 2013

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How can so many people on a "progressive" board want the right-wing to take over in Venezuela? [View all]

There's no question that this result is legitimate. The only reason it was close is because Maduro is a cruddy campaigner(it had nothing to do with the issues, since Capriles has no real ideas).

Why would anyone here prefer and trust the candidate that the wealthy in Venezuela are backing? That U.S. corporations are backing?
That the State Department(and probably, God help us the CIA)supports?

It's embarassing. This is NOT what we're supposed to be about.

Those who are encouraging Capriles not to concede are helping the powerful against the powerless, and may, though they don't mean to, be helping to create the conditions for some sort of coup.

We don't want another Honduras, folks.

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How can so many people on a "progressive" board want the right-wing to take over in Venezuela? [View all] Ken Burch Apr 2013 OP

Beats me...I haven't seen it here, but I believe you, and I'm certainly not for that. n/t whathehell Apr 2013 #1

It's easy. Here's the reason why . . . aggiesal Apr 2013 #70

Oh, I knew that, actually...I guess I was just hoping Kerry was a little better. whathehell Apr 2013 #82

Kidnap for ransom . . . aggiesal Apr 2013 #87

Whoah...Thanks for sharing that! whathehell Apr 2013 #94

I have a cousin . . . aggiesal Apr 2013 #96

I have friends in Venezuela and they are very happy to be living there. I can't wait to go there sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #111

I just want the truth. There is much question the result is legitimate or not. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #2

When right wing scum start caring about 'recounts' we know who is behind it. Caprilles is right wing sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #71

"The Ven. people have the cleanest elections in the civilized world." Don't be ridiculous. nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2013 #76

There is no problem with the elections in Venezuela. The right wing scum who have been sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #112

Capriles is not just slime he is scary slime. I know one of his cronies Exultant Democracy Apr 2013 #3

You'd be surprised...I've seen a LOT of highly questionable stuff posted on DU the past couple years Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #4

+1000 djean111 Apr 2013 #5

It is possible that people may support the ideological goals of Maduro's party geek tragedy Apr 2013 #6

Election SamKnause Apr 2013 #7

No one on an internet forum is "helping the sufrommich Apr 2013 #8

Because they are not "progressives" at all. Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #9

Yup. This is the "Democratic" Underground, not the "Progressive" Underground ConservativeDemocrat Apr 2013 #31

Actually, it should have been "for fascist" Arctic Dave Apr 2013 #34

what election fraud are you talking about? frylock Apr 2013 #46

Probably the fraud in their pants. Just a guess. JanMichael Apr 2013 #67

It's Democratic "Underground", not Democratic "Corporatist Working Group" grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #80

lol Love it. ctsnowman Apr 2013 #107

Oooooo we have a PERFECT fit. 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #84

Progressives don't justify authoritarianism. joshcryer Apr 2013 #89

Years of election results you didn't like does not equate to "authoritarianism". Ken Burch Apr 2013 #109

Amen, brother. hifiguy Apr 2013 #113

Your typo reveals yourself. joshcryer Apr 2013 #117

The old grey whatchamacallit Apr 2013 #103

same reason they pimp guns, offshoring and think Obama rates 100% progressive Skittles Apr 2013 #10

Skittles, your problem is that you always pussy-foot around the issue instead of just telling us ... 11 Bravo Apr 2013 #14

Pretty much this. Marr Apr 2013 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #48

I don't beat around the bush, devilgal Skittles Apr 2013 #56

YOU WANT I SHOULD KICK NAIVE KEN BURCH ASS, 11 BRAVO? Skittles Apr 2013 #58

yup tralala Apr 2013 #19

Eeyup. hifiguy Apr 2013 #32

LMFAO L0oniX Apr 2013 #37

the obama administration wants the "right wing to take over in Venezuela" hmmm nt msongs Apr 2013 #11

Ultimately, yes. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #12

Sadly, There Is Nothing Really New In That Liberal_Dog Apr 2013 #81

Yes...the American Imperialist Culture wants the RW to Take Over KoKo Apr 2013 #52

effective "red scare" campaign noiretextatique Apr 2013 #13

True. Some of these folks act like it's still 1947 Ken Burch Apr 2013 #23

Definately a longing for the Cold War days. As the US SoS and Churchill said, if you want to byeya Apr 2013 #27

Propaganda Machine by MSM in full Force..Look at Flub Up over KoKo Apr 2013 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author name not needed Apr 2013 #43

Progressive board?!? OMG, I thought it said conservative underground! Zorra Apr 2013 #15

When it comes to foreign policy, Americans are easily led by the media. reformist2 Apr 2013 #16

I think there are few right wing trolls who have kept up a relentless barrage of BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #17

Yes, there are four or five people who never show up except to bash Chavez Lydia Leftcoast Apr 2013 #51

... BlueToTheBone Apr 2013 #61

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2013 #78

the same people pushing for war in iran, syria, etc. HiPointDem Apr 2013 #18

Appears to Me Most of the Threads/Replies of Which you Speak Come from One Member dballance Apr 2013 #20

Hiya. joshcryer Apr 2013 #90

LOL. nt. polly7 Apr 2013 #99

Oh look, my favorite substanceless hit and runner! joshcryer Apr 2013 #102

If any fraud occured, Capriles and company were behind it. Dawson Leery Apr 2013 #21

Six idiots is not a lot. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #22

Because they believe the propaganda that our State Department Cleita Apr 2013 #24

They already ARE in, Chavez changed what they had to pay only a few percent. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #41

Yes, and that was enough for them to go after him. Even a little of that percent Cleita Apr 2013 #62

It's the principle of the thing.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #65

I'm barely fast and smart enough to keep tabs on what is going on my own political backyard. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #25

Third Wayers here, I guess. nt valerief Apr 2013 #26

Don't look at me Mnpaul Apr 2013 #28

Probably the same reason why some think Obama is a secret Republican..... AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #29

I don't think one equals the other. Chan790 Apr 2013 #39

I would say it is more likely they are blind supporters of The Icon n2doc Apr 2013 #49

Nope, and I stand by what I said(and TBH, it's probably really true, too.). n/t AverageJoe90 Apr 2013 #72

I want the candidate who gets the most votes to be the winner. JDPriestly Apr 2013 #30

Simple really. bvar22 Apr 2013 #33

Accurate and succinct as usual. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #75

I would rather have the guy who can drive the bus TomClash Apr 2013 #35

all the polls said Maduro was winning in a huge landslide rainy Apr 2013 #36

Saw that. People parroting the "Chavez was a dictator" crap. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #38

Capitalism has its useful idiots across the political spectrum. Starry Messenger Apr 2013 #40

Indeed the late polls were as bogus as those for Rmoney malaise Apr 2013 #42

Because people are brainwashed by the media emsimon33 Apr 2013 #44

to be fair, it's really only two posters spamming the board with their bullshit frylock Apr 2013 #45

To be fair, I post in Lat. Am where 90%+ of posters don't go. joshcryer Apr 2013 #92

They already counted the votes. If Capriles had won by the margin Maduro won by Ken Burch Apr 2013 #110

No I would not. joshcryer Apr 2013 #116

You know it won't change anything, though. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #118

Okay... getting a little desperate there aren't you! whistler162 Apr 2013 #50

Didn't Jimmy Carter call Venezuelan elections the fairest in the world? socialist_n_TN Apr 2013 #55

Yes he did. grantcart Apr 2013 #60

Well then...so Much the better that John Kerry says "Need for Recount!" KoKo Apr 2013 #64

What an inconvenient memory you have there. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2013 #83

The Carter Centers report on the 2012 elections is not favorable. joshcryer Apr 2013 #91

Yes, how dare everyone not fall in line behind Dear Leader's handpicked successor! tritsofme Apr 2013 #53

Our government assholes want a recount so that santamargarita Apr 2013 #54

Same reason the Top 10 Conservative Idiots went away. TransitJohn Apr 2013 #57

Some of us have Wondered about that...and some have asked... KoKo Apr 2013 #63

Care to expand? I'm intrigued, and want to understand the connection you are making. nt msanthrope Apr 2013 #73

a lot of it is because Obama is calling for the overthrow Doctor_J Apr 2013 #66

I honestly wonder about that. Puglover Apr 2013 #68

I think it grows less. DU has a higher level of Understanding KoKo Apr 2013 #74

They think american imperialism is a conspiracy theory? RedCappedBandit Apr 2013 #69

I wish that I had an Answer to your Post... KoKo Apr 2013 #77

Uhhhh, cuz they get paid to post????? grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #79

That post is not credible laborinvain Apr 2013 #85

Whatever you say, 26 posts! grahamhgreen Apr 2013 #104

socialism has been good for Venzula hepkat Apr 2013 #86

How can so many people confuse discomfort with Chavismo with wanting a right wing takeover? (nt) Recursion Apr 2013 #88

History. The influence of money. Staring down the downside of capitalism and its insatiable hunger TheKentuckian Apr 2013 #105

Uh...because we remember what "discomfort" with the Sandinistas, Allende, Bosch and Arbenz led to? Ken Burch Apr 2013 #115

K&R idwiyo Apr 2013 #93

Good question. nt LWolf Apr 2013 #95

propaganda works. nt killbotfactory Apr 2013 #97

Not always. polly7 Apr 2013 #100

Well hey . . . HughBeaumont Apr 2013 #98

Easy. They are not progressive. Jakes Progress Apr 2013 #101

Same reason so many people on this board accused Chavez of being a dictator Hugabear Apr 2013 #106

It really is just a few. The same few you will notice who try to excuse cuts to social programs, who sabrina 1 Apr 2013 #114

Because they are not progressive. eom roody Apr 2013 #108

Because they don't know anything about the political parties involved? Rex Apr 2013 #119