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In reply to the discussion: A Torrent of Disinformation : The NeoCon Propaganda Machine Pushing “Regime Change” in Syria [View all]joshcryer
(62,277 posts)94. I think there is ample support for the Syrians from those who don't invoke...
...their favorite Emmanuel Goldstein for the "two minutes hate." Otherwise the Syrian's have been thrown under the bus just as the Libyan's with people slandering them calling it imperialist, neocon, PNAC conspiracies.
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A Torrent of Disinformation : The NeoCon Propaganda Machine Pushing “Regime Change” in Syria [View all]
stockholmer
Feb 2012
OP
If there were defecting military units in America, we'd have thousands of people killed here, too.
leveymg
Feb 2012
#5
A small percentage of military folks go Absent WithOut Leave every year. No one dies.
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#30
The US doesn't typically lay siege to cities that are protesting against the government.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#55
Thanks for reminding us of that. It's also similar to the "A Clean Break" (1997) neocon hit list
leveymg
Feb 2012
#11
Whatever the neocons are/aren't doing, the Syrian people are certainly pushing for 'regime change'.
pampango
Feb 2012
#3
The "Syrian people" are divided, and the regime is predominantly Shi'ia. It's a religious civil war
leveymg
Feb 2012
#6
I want "to take sides" with anyone who a voice in deciding who governs the country.
pampango
Feb 2012
#7
Syria is as unlike Tunisia as Iran is to Egypt The "Arab Spring" isn't a one-size-fits-all popular
leveymg
Feb 2012
#9
Those who just want freedom are often the first sacrificed in struggles between ruthless parties
leveymg
Feb 2012
#12
I don't want to get into Intra-Shi'ia theological or doctrinal questions here.
leveymg
Feb 2012
#104
That small segment of the anti-war crowd frames everything as "US is bad and is behind this"
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#28
U.S. secretly backed Syrian opposition groups, cables released by WikiLeaks show
ronnie624
Feb 2012
#98
How convenient for you, blanket dismissal of a publication with about 50 diverse authors.
JackRiddler
Feb 2012
#15
Your argument can be completely flipped, we also dismiss Free Republic which has dozens of diverse
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#31
So is "gay girl in Damascus" thrown in there to justify the "disinformation" tag?
bhikkhu
Feb 2012
#17
Your last phrase is the key. To one particular segment of the anti-war crowd it is all about us and
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#32
It is but with these folks it is unintentional. They have tunnel vision aimed at blaming the US for
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#34
You can prattle off all the straw men you want.It still wont make my argument what you want it to be
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#54
No, the bigotry is in thinking that those 'poor people' can't have a Revolution without Western
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#61
if by interference you mean helping people remove the man who is murdering them in the streets
arely staircase
Feb 2012
#63
Well, if you held that position for all the decades the US supported the Assad regime,
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#65
"Bahrain is a bloodbath" = patently dishonest. 60 deaths = 0.004% Bahrain population.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#69
enough that the government is mowing them down in the streets yet they keep showing up
arely staircase
Feb 2012
#47
is that the most effective way to help the syrians rid themselves of th butcher assad?
arely staircase
Feb 2012
#53
This really is nonsense. Unfortunately, some of the anti-war folks are obsessed with making
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#22
That you resort to creating straw men tells everyone all they need to know.
stevenleser
Feb 2012
#29
"That everything is the US' fault and is somehow about us." That is not a "philosophy",
Fool Count
Feb 2012
#60
US doesn't support democracy in Latin America = bad. Supports it in Middle East = bad.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#70
If US supported democracy in Middle East, they would be starting with their "friends" -
Fool Count
Feb 2012
#91
Qatar: Elections in 2013. Jordan: Prime Minister resigned Feb 1st, move to implement democracy.
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#92
Why do Americans think that other nations are not capable of solving their own problems?
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#62
Well, in a way you make the point made by many observers. The US, while claiming to care
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#72
The US also supported Ben Ali, Mubarak, Gaddafi. Maybe the key element is internal uprising, huh?
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#71
Dead Bahrainis are as dead as dead people anywhere else. What is remarkable is how selective
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#79
Well, there's not much chance of those living under our very good friend, Karamov eg, of ever being
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#87
You are mistaken if you think there is no support for the Syrians. You conflate interference and
sabrina 1
Feb 2012
#93
I think there is ample support for the Syrians from those who don't invoke...
joshcryer
Feb 2012
#94
"...a deliberate and calculated campaign to bring down the Assad government..."
unkachuck
Feb 2012
#73
Is it considered liberal or conservative to support hundreds of thousands of demonstrators
pampango
Feb 2012
#75
I'm afraid I think this post contains at least two really silly statements.
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2012
#90