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Zorra

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135. I understand, and believe that most of us are conflicted about these types of things to some degree.
Sat Apr 20, 2013, 05:43 PM
Apr 2013

I am for sure.

We are all victims of a rapidly decaying system that needs to be replaced, but at the same time is, by its nature, resistant to significant, positive, constructive change. Violent, deluded reactionary extremists arise out of the inequities and injustice of the system, and commit acts of frustrated mindless violence that only bolster the power of the system's gatekeepers to curtail our civil liberties.

I'd love to change the world, but the status quo prevents like minded people from assembling and implementing constructive changes.

Maybe someday, enough of us will get together in solidarity, and we can bring about the changes necessary that will make acts of mindless violent terrorism and the consequent reactionary losses of civil liberties a thing of the past.

You do understand YarnAddict Apr 2013 #1
Killed four people now. WI_DEM Apr 2013 #20
That officially makes it a "mass murder" even though no guns were involved slackmaster Apr 2013 #64
They shot it out with police, killed the MIT cop, and seriously wounded another LEO. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #90
No guns? Rex Apr 2013 #97
MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, aged 26, KILLED BY GUNFIRE. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #101
Yes that was just sad. Rex Apr 2013 #102
Gun Humpers must protect Guns at all costs. Human lives are meaningless to them. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #107
Well it looks like one went overboard and got PPR'd! Rex Apr 2013 #122
Tell that lie to the friends, co-workers and loved ones of Officer Sean Collier. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #104
Careful. You don't want to hurt somebody's feelings... CTyankee Apr 2013 #112
You will not BELIEVE who just got PPRd! Rex Apr 2013 #121
oh, yes, at long last! CTyankee Apr 2013 #123
I agree the love affair can only go so far Rex Apr 2013 #127
Wow. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2013 #134
PPR'd long-term gun humper, finally. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #124
I know this site has tried very hard to understand gun owners concerns. I get that. CTyankee Apr 2013 #125
I think for many of us that own guns Rex Apr 2013 #128
I think the admins were giving some benefit of the doubt. CTyankee Apr 2013 #129
I agree 100% Rex Apr 2013 #133
well, so have I. And it's hard to bite your tongue, esp. on an issue you struggle over. CTyankee Apr 2013 #137
I agree. Rex Apr 2013 #142
So one of the resident gun nuts sticks his foot in it again. EOTE Apr 2013 #130
You don't think Martial Law is an over-reaction? WinkyDink Apr 2013 #53
Cut out the hyperbole leftynyc Apr 2013 #56
You may want to research the meaning of martial law Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #59
It's not martial law Marrah_G Apr 2013 #81
It's not martial law nadinbrzezinski Apr 2013 #85
glad we have your expertise to guide us. cali Apr 2013 #2
THey have never done this even for escaped mass murderers malaise Apr 2013 #5
he may have explosives on his body. cali Apr 2013 #7
Sure they have...Did you forget the Dorner case already? Blue_Tires Apr 2013 #70
Didn't remember that malaise Apr 2013 #84
This isn't just a mass murderer onenote Apr 2013 #100
No, *this* is how it's done! Boston PD is kicking ass in this situation Roland99 Apr 2013 #3
LOL, Detroit might have 3 murders today! Shut it down also? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #6
... Roland99 Apr 2013 #8
yeah that's the same thing sharp_stick Apr 2013 #17
You want to prevent deaths or not? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #21
Straw Man is all you got. Ikonoklast Apr 2013 #91
You Certainly are Betraying Your Member Name - Nothing Logical About Your Post at All dballance Apr 2013 #72
Wow, member name joke! How fucking clever! n-t Logical Apr 2013 #82
Because that is exactly the same thing that is happening here Marrah_G Apr 2013 #76
chicago had two murders last night datasuspect Apr 2013 #131
Exactly- and the only people upset by this are those who don't live here Marrah_G Apr 2013 #54
Lol, yes, every person you know! Checked all of them? n-t Logical Apr 2013 #83
My friends and family in the city... absolutely Marrah_G Apr 2013 #88
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2013 #132
In a sea of dumb things.... dems_rightnow Apr 2013 #4
lol alphafemale Apr 2013 #19
You are correct! Talking about disrupting a city. You know the 19 year old is happy! Logical Apr 2013 #9
What specifically leads you to believe his agenda LanternWaste Apr 2013 #41
What is the purpose of a "terror attack"? Logical Apr 2013 #47
To make us stop doing something specific. ieoeja Apr 2013 #116
Hmmm, I'm usually among the first to react to police state type shit Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #10
It may be necessary and it is possible it will be over in less than an hour but the malaise Apr 2013 #12
What precisely is this precedent you refer to, and what, in practical terms, will this precedent... LanternWaste Apr 2013 #23
I wonder this too. I think of precedents like Katrina, the police state Cal Carpenter Apr 2013 #27
They know exactly where he is marions ghost Apr 2013 #33
Wonderfully stated Dorian Gray Apr 2013 #36
Unrec. FSogol Apr 2013 #11
Unrec +3 obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2013 #44
Let's just chase him down with a group of men in clown costumes... MOTRDemocrat Apr 2013 #13
Maybe we could leave a trail of vookies. nt alphafemale Apr 2013 #22
Wow. WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #14
Distance this time malaise Apr 2013 #16
What would you suggest? WilliamPitt Apr 2013 #24
I honestly don't know Will and maybe Ida is correct malaise Apr 2013 #37
It's not fear Marrah_G Apr 2013 #45
What precedent? Arkana Apr 2013 #66
well, that just makes it all OK then, *your* friends *almost* died. supernaut Apr 2013 #55
You act like this is unprecedented leftynyc Apr 2013 #57
Thats because it is unprecedented. supernaut Apr 2013 #60
Never? In ALL American history? leftynyc Apr 2013 #65
LOL, Ridiculous Oilwellian Apr 2013 #79
NO ONE HAS SUSPENDED CIVIL LIBERTIES IN BOSTON dballance Apr 2013 #78
No, it isn't Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #15
Exactly, why give this guy hostages? davidpdx Apr 2013 #32
It is not a violation of civil liberty Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #38
I think you misunderstood, I was agreeing with you and back you on your argument davidpdx Apr 2013 #39
I'm sorry, I was up at 2 AM Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #52
You are watching the news davidpdx Apr 2013 #58
I'm glancing at it - mostly DU and Boston.com Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #63
Yeah, I know what you mean about CNN davidpdx Apr 2013 #68
Yes, I consider them irresponsible Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #71
I think this whole thing has been handled very well this week, including this morning's events distantearlywarning Apr 2013 #18
Oh for god's sake. Zoeisright Apr 2013 #25
the brother they killed had an IED strapped to his chest magical thyme Apr 2013 #26
He might carry bomb nmbluesky Apr 2013 #28
I understand your concern, but this isn't a typical situation. WI_DEM Apr 2013 #29
It's all about catching him. boston bean Apr 2013 #30
We don't know how many more? kentuck Apr 2013 #31
Its the bombs. I understand your concern IdaBriggs Apr 2013 #34
Apparently malaise Apr 2013 #43
Nice ProudToBeBlueInRhody Apr 2013 #35
Staying out of the polices way is not cowering Marrah_G Apr 2013 #40
breaking news has just proved how full of it this op is. cali Apr 2013 #42
My mother and her friends went to movies during WWII in London malaise Apr 2013 #74
"head for shelters" actslikeacarrot Apr 2013 #80
I live in DC and let me tell you, if the police were looking for a terrorist justiceischeap Apr 2013 #46
This is the best analogy so far adigal Apr 2013 #106
it's a valid thing to be worried about Enrique Apr 2013 #48
I understand the need to use drastic tactics but I've lives through the erosion of malaise Apr 2013 #49
Yep G_j Apr 2013 #62
AGREE 100%. AND ordered not to use cell-phones! Didn't happen on 9/11/01! WinkyDink Apr 2013 #50
The perps from 9/11 leftynyc Apr 2013 #69
In fairness, not everyone had a cell phone back then. Today, nearly 100% of ecstatic Apr 2013 #96
I don't believe that I understand exactly what you are trying to express here. Zorra Apr 2013 #51
Agree or disagree, we must be careful not to stifle free speech... kentuck Apr 2013 #67
I'm totally not trying to stifle free speech. I'm actually trying to expand it. Zorra Apr 2013 #77
I worry deeply about the erosion of our civil liberties across the globe malaise Apr 2013 #113
I understand, and believe that most of us are conflicted about these types of things to some degree. Zorra Apr 2013 #135
Beautifully stated malaise Apr 2013 #136
My pleasure. Zorra Apr 2013 #138
Because this kid is an armed, dangerous psycho who's proven he's not above killing people? Arkana Apr 2013 #61
Well, Since the People in Boston are all STILL FREE to go Outside if they So Choose We're Still Free dballance Apr 2013 #73
Have you been living under a rock? Truly an asinine post.. badtoworse Apr 2013 #75
We get snow storms sarisataka Apr 2013 #86
It makes it easier to find one guy when he's not hiding in the crowd. randome Apr 2013 #87
let him get on an MBTA bus or fully loaded T with people going to work while he has a bomb strapped NotThisTime Apr 2013 #89
Age: irrelevant. Possibility of more anti-personnel bombs: yes. redqueen Apr 2013 #92
Understand your concern, but I think this warrants an exception suffragette Apr 2013 #93
I love chatting with you on DU a lot and I respect your opinion, but Jamastiene Apr 2013 #94
I'm concerned about possible colleagues ecstatic Apr 2013 #95
You have to bear in mind that a lot of folks here are cthulu2016 Apr 2013 #98
I live 5 miles from Boston Amaya Apr 2013 #99
It is upsetting, isn't it? I am hoping we can get through this sensibly and come back CTyankee Apr 2013 #103
Indeed sis malaise Apr 2013 #108
That Senate vote on the gun bill didn't help matters either... CTyankee Apr 2013 #109
Amazing how this just threw it off the news malaise Apr 2013 #110
Yup, that one was a lesson in the folly of deregulation of industry. CTyankee Apr 2013 #111
And that's the absolute truth malaise Apr 2013 #114
Freedom is an illusion. Apophis Apr 2013 #105
Nobody has to cower. Just rate the odds that you might be in the same place as a kid DeschutesRiver Apr 2013 #115
"Freedom" has been stolen by the Right to justify their selfish nature.... Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2013 #117
It's voluntary, dude Taverner Apr 2013 #118
I don't believe this shit is going on at DU. Hekate Apr 2013 #119
I agree, it's a horrible precedent Bragi Apr 2013 #120
I don't get it. This has been a *massive* public safety "event" kenny blankenship Apr 2013 #126
You are right. they did their job. It is Blue State against Red State in some ways. CTyankee Apr 2013 #139
He wasn't just "a nineteen year old" LiberalElite Apr 2013 #140
I brought this up and was promptly attacked by the hawks here. DainBramaged Apr 2013 #141
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