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In reply to the discussion: Why are surgeons paid more than brick layers? [View all]sarge43
(28,949 posts)68. Because a brinklayer never saved my life or saved me from being crippled the rest of my life.
Yes you have a point. "A society which valves philosophers more than plumbers will have neither good philosophy nor good plumbing." However, some work is more critical than others.
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They don't all have reasonable hours. Unless you think 4 am phone calls from nurses to report labs
TwilightGardener
Feb 2012
#1
Beats showing up at the jobsite at first light and working until darkness though. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#2
I've found any job with that much UV exposure is not good for you longterm. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#47
But I'm sure they have plenty saved up and it wasn't financially devastating.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#50
I'm a Union Bricklayer. I live in a NYC borough, I can answer any questions you have.
FarLeftFist
Feb 2012
#188
I imagine the relevance of your post would be if that number is unusually and consistently higher
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#214
How many years at a surgeons salary does it take to pay off medical school bills?
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#17
It's amazing that people seem to be able to support 2 kids on less than 50K a year.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#64
You appear to be rather confident when budgeting other people's money without knowing
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#215
I don't begrudge him. I just think you should be making a lot more money. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#45
A bricklayer's apprentice spends all day mixing mortar and hauling heavy block for
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#148
Would you rather have a surgeon build your fireplace, or a bricklayer perform your surgery?
11 Bravo
Feb 2012
#70
Your right. Those "little" people should learn a new skill if they want more money.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#139
I can see that you know very little about trades or todays construction, or perhaps you are a
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#154
Most that try it lack either the talent (it takes the talent of an artist you know) or the physical
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#153
So basically your argument is people will pay the doctors exorbitantly because of a death threat?
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#229
Emergency repairs are quite common, but being the expert you are, you know all about that.
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#157
No I compared it to a homeowner that failed to maintain his home assume the bricks were perfect when
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#170
Pay should be tied to years of training combined with a valuation of skill/talent displayed
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#173
My sister is opting out of open heart surgery right now, she can't get the funding
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#226
Emergency repairs aren't performed by unskilled workers, and hence are expensive.
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2012
#199
The whole point of this OP is that they are not "well paid". Not all of these skilled tradespeople
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#203
I have worked in three trades for all my life, This is not the UK (35 year career)
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#224
I have found that the highest barrier to being a surgeon is family money. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#23
Generally I find very few doctors that do not come from good families though.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#40
I've found that those "American Dream" yarns to not be the norm though. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#57
not sure what you're after, but I'll answer in straightforward fashion
DisgustipatedinCA
Feb 2012
#16
With the ease of a right wink think tank ... apparently... sadly....on a Democratic site
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#158
Scarcity. There are a lot more people capable of laying bricks than performing surgery.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Feb 2012
#29
Part of that is control of the supply bu the US Medical establishment
ProgressiveProfessor
Feb 2012
#72
When you say "making some money" what kind of figures are we talking about?
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#51
About the same amount of time it takes to learn how to put in a stitch.
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2012
#75
Because a brinklayer never saved my life or saved me from being crippled the rest of my life.
sarge43
Feb 2012
#68
My point is that blue collar workers should be paid A LOT more not that
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#76
Agree that blue collar workers are getting the shaft and are not being paid what they deserve.
sarge43
Feb 2012
#92
Check out Dragonfli's and nadinbrzynski's(sp?) posts and you will get it. nt
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#209
The machinery of corneal transplant surgery is more important to the procedure.
lumberjack_jeff
Feb 2012
#79
Manual labour's horribly underpaid, but I'm not too offended at surgeons' pay. (nt)
Posteritatis
Feb 2012
#101
As I read more of the responses ... its clear that very few "got your point". nt
JoePhilly
Feb 2012
#115
I'm sure your father would have liked to have been better compensated for his work.
Snake Alchemist
Feb 2012
#118
Becoming a surgeon requires years of specialized education and training, and lots of money up front
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#120
Surgeons have the ability to kill people if they don't do their jobs correctly.
Avalux
Feb 2012
#132
because the input cost of obtaining an MD and successfully making it through residency is unbelievab
Obama3_16
Feb 2012
#133
I have laid bricks. SA, I would be happy to do any surgeries you might need...
renie408
Feb 2012
#144
What is the source of your information about surgeons? You/your comparison are quite WRONG!
Carolina
Feb 2012
#155
Finally an adequate answer, the poster IMO was not putting down MD's so much as supporting brickies
Dragonfli
Feb 2012
#169
Forbidding doctors from working more than 40 hours a week would cause hospitals serious problems.
Donald Ian Rankin
Feb 2012
#212
Supply and Demand is the answer to most questions that involve "how much we pay"
Egalitariat
Feb 2012
#171
This is a joke question, right? You seriously don't know? Here's your answer:
Honeycombe8
Feb 2012
#181
Don't know how to break this to you, but surgeons certainly do work with their hands.
WillowTree
Feb 2012
#194
Go through 12-16 years of grueling education coming out with over $200,000 in debt
fujiyama
Feb 2012
#187
Slightly different question: How much more should a surgeon make than a brick layer?
limpyhobbler
Feb 2012
#192
I believe they used to make the same salaries in Cuba until a few years ago
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#225
I believe manual labor is merely but part and parcel of the total of value.
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#213
Increasingly, the American labor force is becoming more and more specialized...
YoungDemCA
Feb 2012
#222