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19. Yep. You could really sense a sort of panic in the establishment response.

Fri Apr 26, 2013, 11:02 AM

Apr 2013

Occupy wasn't anything violent, and that was beyond obvious. But the establishment response was frantic. They tried the usual things, then some unusual things, then went straight to violence. I feel like they really showed their hand there and colored a lot of peoples' thinking. If this situation is corrected in time, I expect much of it will be rooted in realizations people had during the clampdown on Occupy.

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DU POLL: Only money matters in the NEW US? [View all] RKP5637 Apr 2013 OP

Two issues that really need attention madokie Apr 2013 #1

Exactly, madokie! What you said is the common thread and the bottom-line as to what is at the RKP5637 Apr 2013 #17

And there's only ONE issue that needs attention more than that RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #30

Gotta get the two I mention under control before we get this though madokie Apr 2013 #31

Oh, so to you Planet Earth is number two? RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #33

We don't make laws madokie Apr 2013 #37

No, I am not being obtuse. RoccoR5955 Apr 2013 #43

The problem is that "Money" gets in the way of saving the environment. haele Apr 2013 #39

it isn't new hfojvt Apr 2013 #2

and it is much older than that hfojvt Apr 2013 #6

Very much disagree. TimberValley Apr 2013 #3

Just asking, how do you control the direction of the US given the way things are RKP5637 Apr 2013 #7

Votes. Persuasiveness. Make compelling arguments that are valid and true. nt. TimberValley Apr 2013 #8

Absolutely true. Everything else matters only to the extent that it affects accumulated wealth. lumberjack_jeff Apr 2013 #4

As in the old US (and elsewhere) frazzled Apr 2013 #5

A lot of things have changed IMO since you and I were young. We have Citizens United, a RKP5637 Apr 2013 #11

You must not remember the political process at the 1968 Democratic Convention frazzled Apr 2013 #24

Thanks! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #28

I'm tired of the idea that everything will suddenly become fine if money is gone from politics. TimberValley Apr 2013 #9

It is a theKed Apr 2013 #21

It's not that money is so bad, it's the character of those who put it above humanity flamingdem Apr 2013 #10

Yep!!! Well said! RKP5637 Apr 2013 #13

You probably read Krugman's article on austerity flamingdem Apr 2013 #27

Thanks!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #29

Money's an easy metric to assign value in anything. That skews the balance that should be sought. haele Apr 2013 #40

And the result is a quantized species, void of personality ... simply pawns in a game. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #42

Today? Absolutely. Marr Apr 2013 #12

Exactly, and why Occupy was suppressed so quickly. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #15

Yep. You could really sense a sort of panic in the establishment response. Marr Apr 2013 #19

Meanwhile, the noose, so to say, is tightening and tightening against any show of unrest and RKP5637 Apr 2013 #25

Money is not the only currency sarisataka Apr 2013 #14

Lots of other things matter here other than money. rrneck Apr 2013 #16

How will it be taken back? That, is always what puzzles me. You make an excellent point, "we have RKP5637 Apr 2013 #20

Taxes. nt rrneck Apr 2013 #23

YES, that would be highly effective!!! nj/t RKP5637 Apr 2013 #26

We don't have a problem with "money in politics" Alva Goldbook Apr 2013 #18

Exactly! And, we have a revolving door between Congress, lobbyists and corporations. They all RKP5637 Apr 2013 #22

What do you mean by new? BainsBane Apr 2013 #32

Yeah, today it's more blatant and in our faces, with IMO the message being, so what are RKP5637 Apr 2013 #34

Good question BainsBane Apr 2013 #35

That, would be an excellent start. Also, Americans need to wake up to the game being played to RKP5637 Apr 2013 #36

IMO it is not so much that treestar Apr 2013 #38

Exactly, and they will get what is dished out to them ... and then say WTF, and then it's RKP5637 Apr 2013 #41