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Pab Sungenis

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Wed Feb 8, 2012, 12:48 PM Feb 2012

My great-grandmother was a Nazi. [View all]

Something for you to think about today: my great-grandmother Katherine was a Nazi.

I don't mean that in today's watered-down overblown rhetorical sense, either. My great-grandmother was an actual Nazi. She immigrated from Germany with her family in the 1880's but always stayed in touch with other family members in the Fatherland and kept up on issues.

She was an anti-Semite. She supported Hitler. She was a member of the German-American Bund. Even though she was loyal to America after we entered World War II, she never changed her underlying beliefs and until she died in the 1970's she insisted that Hitler was right.

Now let's move on to my grandmother, her daughter Elizabeth.

My grandmother went to work as a secretary for a Jewish egg farmer who went on to win a seat in Congress. She planted trees in Israel shortly after that country came into being. After her father died in the 1960's she built a small bungalow for her mother on a part of the property she owned with her husband and arranged the sale of the old family farm to an Austrian Jew who had been in the Camps.

She was the kindest, gentlest, person you could ever imagine. And she was the person who had the least trouble accepting my homosexuality or the fact that I'd partnered up with a Jew. (She only disliked him because, like her, he talked too much.)

The lesson is that the sins of the father are not the sins of the sons. What matters most is not how you are raised, but what happens to you when you go out into the world yourself and start to think for yourself.

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My great-grandmother was a Nazi. [View all] Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 OP
beautifully said grantcart Feb 2012 #1
thank you for this. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2012 #2
Eloquently put. K&R 11 Bravo Feb 2012 #3
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #4
Sounds like my grandmother. baldguy Feb 2012 #5
My great-grandmother was the same way until the end. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #11
That's a beautiful story! BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #6
Beautiful story, thanks for posting it...n/t monmouth Feb 2012 #7
Historical Context Ron Obvious Feb 2012 #8
Great story but I think it sounds like your grandmother was very much a product of her upbringing. jwirr Feb 2012 #9
My grandmother was born in 1914. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #10
I was raised with a German grandmother who was very like that also. We referred to her as determined jwirr Feb 2012 #18
Wonderful,uplifting OP. nt sufrommich Feb 2012 #12
I believe upbring does influence a person, but the world experience really impacts the person. Behind the Aegis Feb 2012 #13
Bingo. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #17
Bigoted and hateful is not only the realm of the old jtuck004 Feb 2012 #27
I think that we do learn many things from our upbringing though Nikia Feb 2012 #14
My Dad spent WWII in Ireland, cheering on the Nazis AngryAmish Feb 2012 #15
Ireland was such an interesting case during World War II. Pab Sungenis Feb 2012 #16
K&R Shankapotomus Feb 2012 #19
the thing perhaps to remember is that the nazis were not alien being from another planet dembotoz Feb 2012 #20
Wish I could rec this post. nt TBF Feb 2012 #21
I totally agree Bragi Feb 2012 #29
"today's watered-down overblown rhetorical sense" ellisonz Feb 2012 #22
My Great-Uncle Apparently Was One, Too AnnieBW Feb 2012 #23
Siebenbürger Sachsen? eridani Feb 2012 #26
I think so AnnieBW Feb 2012 #33
First Temeschburg, then Temeswar eridani Feb 2012 #35
My grandfather was from Giarmata AnnieBW Feb 2012 #36
Mazel tov... DRoseDARs Feb 2012 #24
Terrific story. K&R! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2012 #25
Some people just never steer far from the farm. The Backlash Cometh Feb 2012 #28
My great-grandmother encouraged my grandmother to send my mom to Hitler Javaman Feb 2012 #30
Well said and a beautiful story. MarianJack Feb 2012 #31
My childrens' grandfather was one, too. Rozlee Feb 2012 #32
K&R! cliffordu Feb 2012 #34
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