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calimary

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Tue May 21, 2013, 03:36 AM May 2013

TREASON. I think the GOP'ers relentlessly persecuting Obama are now guilty of it. [View all]

I posted this elsewhere here - but thought it might be worth its own thread. It was a response to rhett o rick who wondered if jonathan karl and his ilk might be guilty of sedition in cooked and concocted "news" coverage that passed off GOP-doctored talking points as the real thing from the White House. I think it smacks of flat-out TREASON. And I think we oughta start a drumbeat about it. Hit these bastards back HARDER than they hit us.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022872271

Bill Maher broached the subject last week with Michael Moore - wondering aloud whether all this obstruction was tantamount to treason.

Well, I think he makes a GREAT point, and WE ought to be repeating that meme and starting to bring it to life.

Consider:

At this moment, we still are a nation AT WAR. We presently have thousands of Americans IN HARM'S WAY, IN ACTIVE COMBAT, IN LIVE HOT ZONES. FACING ARMED AND RELENTLESS AND WELL-ARMED ENEMIES. RIGHT NOW. At this very instant. Afghanistan mainly. But ANYWHERE in the frickin' Middle East, their lives are literally on the line.

Now - when a President presides during wartime, that makes him a wartime president, does it not?

And what else is a President known as? How 'bout Commander-in-Chief of ALL United States Armed Forces? Yep, WHOEVER the POTUS is at any given moment, that's his OTHER title. That's what else our nation's Chief Executive is.

Now - what would you call obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all United States Armed Forces DURING wartime? I think it just might be TREASON. Probably HIGH Treason, at that. Because like it or not, the United States of America is still at war.

So that means Barack H. Obama is not only the current President, he's also Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces. And at THIS time, he's a WARTIME President and a WARTIME Commander-in-Chief. Anybody willfully getting in his way and impeding and obstructing his job is, in effect, committing TREASON. After all, they're obstructing the Commander-in-Chief of all U.S. Armed Forces DURING A TIME OF WAR.

What do you think the republi-CONS would be doing now - if it was their guy in the White House, facing this much on-going opposition?

This whole mess needs to be reframed and renamed. And if they were blathering about the "I-word" then I think it's high time we started bringing up the "T-word."

It's time to fight these bastards with EVERYTHING WE'VE GOT. TREASON. That is what the GOP is now GUILTY of. They've even got the "G-for-guilty" in GOP already in place.

I'd like your take on this. I think it's messaging we should start circulating. Maybe it'll catch on.

What do you think?

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Damned right it should be circulated. DemocratsForProgress May 2013 #1
I'm just fed up. You bad-guys wanna start insinuating about the "I-word"? calimary May 2013 #4
Congressional Democrats and Democratic strategists should be pushing this truth BlueCaliDem May 2013 #33
Yeah. Summer Hathaway May 2013 #2
Bill Clinton said it best RobertEarl May 2013 #3
It's disturbing how closely your argument mirrors the neo-cons of the previous administration. Gravitycollapse May 2013 #5
Ah, the old false-equivalency thing again. Not relevant here. Not by a long shot. calimary May 2013 #6
Obstructionism is not treason. It just isn't. So by calling them treasonous... Gravitycollapse May 2013 #8
good luck with that... mikeysnot May 2013 #29
It is during wartime. You know, that period where the Constitution really doesn't count by design? nebenaube May 2013 #57
That is exactly what the neo-cons said! Gravitycollapse May 2013 #61
That is my thought. It can be argued that the Republicans are giving aid and comfort to the JDPriestly May 2013 #13
Spot on! MNBrewer May 2013 #25
It's disturbing how you're on a Democratic Party supporting site and appear against the OP's BlueCaliDem May 2013 #34
Treason is defined in law in the Constitution, Article III. longship May 2013 #7
Great post oberliner May 2013 #14
Yes, the extremist 20 have committed treason. Sedition is illegal graham4anything May 2013 #9
as is libel... SQUEE May 2013 #23
Why did you pick me to reply to?Especially as 40 other replies said the same thing. graham4anything May 2013 #26
in the flow of this thread, yours is the first to outright say it, so I replied... SQUEE May 2013 #28
sedition. pansypoo53219 May 2013 #10
Google "alien and sedition act" longship May 2013 #12
Nope dreamnightwind May 2013 #11
Good luck with all that RandiFan1290 May 2013 #15
Your argument is, well, sickening. cali May 2013 #16
Yes, of course we should. graham4anything May 2013 #27
of course we should sit down and shut up for any war time President? SICK cali May 2013 #36
So G4A, we're you a big Nixon supporter? onenote May 2013 #42
Their behavior is definitely anti-American and unpatriotic. I get that people have differing views spicegal May 2013 #17
No, not in a legal sense sakabatou May 2013 #18
I think the obstructing R's in congress and in fact at all levels of government have been geckosfeet May 2013 #19
H.L. Mencken and Eugene V. Debs might want you to rethink your stance.. SQUEE May 2013 #20
Which of our political enemies do you want to see executed first? el_bryanto May 2013 #21
........................ Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #22
1. We don't recognize "High Treason" in the US MNBrewer May 2013 #24
But it was enough to silence the opposition, wasn't it? eom BlueCaliDem May 2013 #35
While I didn't stop my criticism MNBrewer May 2013 #39
"Seems like an idiotic means to an end." BlueCaliDem May 2013 #43
Don't get me wrong MNBrewer May 2013 #47
I think you need to read the Constitution. nt hack89 May 2013 #30
It's what they would be screaming if this were a Republican administration... Pragdem May 2013 #31
It should be punished politically onenote May 2013 #41
Welcome to DU, Pragdem! I'm very appreciative of all the comments, both pro and con. calimary May 2013 #55
This is a bad idea that can't even survive its own standard for a mere 55 posts. Nuclear Unicorn May 2013 #60
Treason has a very specific definition. MineralMan May 2013 #32
I hate it when DUers openly display their ignorance of the Constitution onenote May 2013 #37
In my short time on this forum, I've noticed quite a bit of that. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #51
To paraphrase William Pitt: Derp Jeff In Milwaukee May 2013 #58
The stragest aspect to me is that people don't understand one of our basic principles of law Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #62
Oooooh. TREASON, probably HIGH TREASON? Nye Bevan May 2013 #38
That was awesome Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #40
If it could be shown that certain GOP officials ucrdem May 2013 #46
+1 MNBrewer May 2013 #48
We're Seeing History Repeat Itself ChoppinBroccoli May 2013 #44
I can't get over how absolutely terrible and idiotic this op is and I can't believe cali May 2013 #45
I thought I was the ony one. Dpm12 May 2013 #49
I think you are close to a tour de force of hyperbole. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #50
no. fishwax May 2013 #52
You are wrong on this one. This is not Treason. SlimJimmy May 2013 #53
No. The T word is carefully defined in the Constitution nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #54
The Bill of Rights applies all the time. BlueCheese May 2013 #56
None of it is treason treestar May 2013 #59
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