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30. Point taken. Only problem is - that sounds like the reasoning of Harry Reid when he fell for

Tue May 21, 2013, 05:05 PM

May 2013

mitch mcconnell's "promise" to be reasonable - so he left the filibuster rules intact. SURELY the opposition would be reasonable! And guess what happened? mcconnell went ahead and broke his "promise," as most of us expected he might. Harry Reid had a chance! His logic was along the lines of not wanting to set a precedent that might come back to bite the Dems in the ass if ever they lost the Senate.

Well, guess what? If the worst happens and the republi-CONS do win back the Senate, do you think for one instant they'll behave as cautiously as Harry Reid did? HELL NO!!! I would expect them to change every rule they can to make sure the minority does NOT have a voice at all. I'm not a betting woman, but I would bet on that one. They're just fucking ruthless. I wish our side were, too.

Maybe it's time to move now, to act now - WHILE we have the strengths that we do. Worrying about what might happen if, if, if... seems counterproductive and unrealistic, considering how ruthless the opposition is that we're facing.

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"If Jonathan Karl doesn't like being called a hack, then he should stop being a hack" EPIC takedown [View all] kpete May 2013 OP

"Blow the source." - Americans Against Right-Wing anti-American Hackery Berlum May 2013 #1

And just by the way... you'll get a 40 share! farmbo May 2013 #10

K&R & thanks for the graphic-meme! patrice May 2013 #27

Very well said Mr Pierce Bluenorthwest May 2013 #2

Sweet! Skidmore May 2013 #3

Thanks for that take down, Charles Pierce! sheshe2 May 2013 #4

Journalism didn't go bad when it became "the province almost exclusively of the over-educated." winter is coming May 2013 #5

This is Good.. thanks kpete! Cha May 2013 #6

Cant his behavior be classified as sedition? nm rhett o rick May 2013 #7

Actually, you might not be far off. calimary May 2013 #17

I don't like it dreamnightwind May 2013 #18

This is far and above scrutiny. This is seditious slander. And if it can be proven, seditious rhett o rick May 2013 #20

Point taken. Only problem is - that sounds like the reasoning of Harry Reid when he fell for calimary May 2013 #30

Except for the vehicle you've chosen, I completely agree dreamnightwind May 2013 #32

I agree that this should be pushed. A separate thread is a good idea. Let me know so I dont miss it. rhett o rick May 2013 #19

It's very hard to forget the sort of thing that happened to Ambassador Stevens, because a safe-house patrice May 2013 #26

But Mr. Karl can not be not a hack. He is a hack and will most likely always be a hack. rhett o rick May 2013 #8

'...absolved of his hackyness...' Good one! randome May 2013 #16

Outstanding. n/t Qutzupalotl May 2013 #9

More shill than hack (NT) The Wizard May 2013 #11

he's just doing his job watoos May 2013 #12

Howard K. Smith, Frank Reynolds and Harry Reasoner must be revolving in their graves Jack Rabbit May 2013 #13

K&R- Exactly. n/t myrna minx May 2013 #14

Well said. K & R. freshwest May 2013 #15

Since Karl isn't revealing the source, it is reasonable to suspect that Karl altered the document. SDjack May 2013 #21

may have "altered the document": So much for all of that window-dressing about precious sources, patrice May 2013 #25

Or maybe he doesn't want to burn his good friend darrell issa? I bet it came from issa. calimary May 2013 #31

A real journalist would have been suspicious of anything handed to them by a politician. Beacool May 2013 #22

ABC has lost trust, they employ RW propaganda hacks like Jonathan Karl Sunlei May 2013 #23

People will no longer accept Plausible Deniability & a professional would not CHEAPEN patrice May 2013 #24

Still no apology nor even a retraction from ABC. SunSeeker May 2013 #28

K&R Anansi1171 May 2013 #29