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In reply to the discussion: What is the reason the GLBT Community doesn't support Bradley Manning? [View all]Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)262. No worries. I'm gonna take it to the Admins.
If they're ok w. organized Military Intelligence units on DU... that's their call.
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Manning's Gayness has become an issue if you read the articles...He's a caring person
KoKo
May 2013
#5
You are technically correct. However, "sexual preference" is an oft used RW meme
dballance
May 2013
#144
are you stereotyping the GLBT community by suggesting they all need to think alike?
CreekDog
May 2013
#147
While I always believe we can do more than one thing at a time, LGBT organizations really
hrmjustin
May 2013
#78
Simply because someone is gay does not entitle them to unfettered support, does it?
randome
May 2013
#6
Disagree...I see posts here all the time on DU where Feminists Groups defend their own
KoKo
May 2013
#7
And you will also note some vehement disagreements on certain feminist topics.
stevenleser
May 2013
#37
The idea that being gay creates an obligation to support other gay people who do bad things is daft.
Donald Ian Rankin
May 2013
#161
Plenty of supporters in San Francisco and around the world. Many Manning contigents in Pride parades
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#9
Gee who gave you the right to declare that SF Pride = 'the gay community'?
Bluenorthwest
May 2013
#27
Excellet post and for the record, in San Francisco, the LGBTQ community has
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#76
He was a young kid given a security clearance and saw "things" he couldn't tolerate
KoKo
May 2013
#20
It's slow, gradual, and frustrating, and it's been going on with setbacks and advances for 2 decades
Recursion
May 2013
#165
So this is just a systemic glitch. Bureaucratic logjam. The Collateral Murder ( so called) video...
Smarmie Doofus
May 2013
#173
Interesting. You say " group of armed men." Whatever else is on that video....
Smarmie Doofus
May 2013
#194
He released thousands upon thousands of classified documents without reading them. How
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#178
Yes he took his oath seriously and refused to keep secret violations by his superiors of that same
sabrina 1
May 2013
#38
Many laws have been written in the history of this country. One of them, or so we are told, forbids
sabrina 1
May 2013
#79
Handing over innocent people who were promised by the US that the horrific invasion they endured
sabrina 1
May 2013
#137
He Did Indeed...and TRUTH will OUT...even though it takes longer than we would wish it to.
KoKo
May 2013
#257
The persecution of dissidents in Iraq. He went to his CO to complain and was told to STFU.
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#87
Actually they posted the entire video prior to releasing the edited one.
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#114
Yes. I believe he did. I could do it. I am an extra-ordinary fast reader and
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#133
He never said he hadn't read them all. Here is the entire quote from the Lamo chat logs:
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#201
Wrong again, he most certainly did claim and very believably, to have read through most of them.
sabrina 1
May 2013
#229
Using that logic, it would take you about two and a half years to read all the material he released.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#252
Anyone who knows anything about the military and our rules of engagement in Iraq
AnalystInParadise
May 2013
#109
Is this true? US told Reuters that the Collateral Murder video didn't exist?
Smarmie Doofus
May 2013
#232
I did not say that. That was not me. I don't alert, either. I did alert back in Jan, 2012 when
Tuesday Afternoon
Jun 2013
#259
No, I realize that. I'm addressing the verbatim comments of Juror #3....
Smarmie Doofus
Jun 2013
#260
yes, but, see that gets into a larger issue than what the jury duty system allows -
Tuesday Afternoon
Jun 2013
#261
Who Pays the Salaries of "the Military Intelligence People" of which you are a Proud Member?
KoKo
Jun 2013
#268
Well..."Mr. Defense Contractor" Could you learn to post in Paragraph Breaks so your
KoKo
Jun 2013
#270
I thought not...perhaps you are not what you assume we will respect your posts for?
KoKo
Jun 2013
#273
And he also released thousands of diplomatic cables indiscriminately, thereby putting
pnwmom
May 2013
#52
I thought you knew the facts surrounding the Manning case. Are you saying you do not?
sabrina 1
May 2013
#94
I'd like to hear your interpretation as I have many times stated the facts about this case. I don't
sabrina 1
May 2013
#101
As I thought, you have no knowledge of this case yet take a position on it. My references were to
sabrina 1
May 2013
#115
Every question you just asked demonstrates that you know nothing about this case.
sabrina 1
May 2013
#149
It's called "evasion". You probably won't get a straightforward answer, but thanks for trying.
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#116
7th or 8th? You obviously stopped counting. It's a poor tactic, but used to extremes...
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#140
Perhaps you could provide one of your infamous "Links" to where I intimated such a thing?
Tarheel_Dem
May 2013
#188
The Iraq War was illegal. Everything about it should have been revealed in a court of law and
sabrina 1
May 2013
#121
No, I'm surprised you think the 'world should run on emotions'. I disagree, I think it should
sabrina 1
May 2013
#153
a lot like how corporations and the 1% get away with what they do. They pay
liberal_at_heart
May 2013
#135
The UN will never do anything the US does not want them to do. But other countries have
sabrina 1
May 2013
#141
I know it's late, but even that doesn't explain why anyone would write such a totally
sabrina 1
May 2013
#158
FYI..the poster you are conversing with thought Anwar Awlaki was a 'non-violent' cleric.
msanthrope
May 2013
#182
Facts? Okay, here are some facts from your (and my) hero, Daniel Elsberg on Bradley Manning:
sabrina 1
May 2013
#197
That's the most cogent and concise argument I have seen in this thread. Bravo.
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#251
See Daniel Elsberg on what was revealed by Manning. I will take his word over anonymous
sabrina 1
May 2013
#192
Elsberg was prosecuted with several felony charges. He was retired from the military
sabrina 1
May 2013
#198
Okay, at least we agree that Manning couldn't have possibly read all of the material
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#204
We don't agree on your premise, which is false. As Gates himself said 'no harm was done'
sabrina 1
May 2013
#214
Manning mindlessly released hundreds of thousands of classified documents (fact)
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#223
You've expressed an opinion, proving nothing. Daniel Ellsberg put it very clearly to dispel
sabrina 1
May 2013
#246
You still won't answer the questions I asked. I can understand why. That wouldn't fit into the
SlimJimmy
May 2013
#249
Thanks and +1 ...Younger DU'ers don't know what or who Daniel Ellsberg was about...
KoKo
May 2013
#212
That's what people said about Ellsberg also. Your constant refrain that Manning exposed no
sabrina 1
May 2013
#250
Why not? If we Feminists look deeper into issues about our own..as do other support groups
KoKo
May 2013
#21
The same reason some (most) African Americans don't support Clarence Thomas or Herman Cain
stevenleser
May 2013
#28
Define equating. In the sense that some of their group doesn't support some of what they do? Yes
stevenleser
May 2013
#31
You're comparing Bradley Manning, a person courageous enough to report war crimes when he witnessed
sabrina 1
May 2013
#44
The OP proposes a borderline discriminatory question. I gave an example of why it is discriminatory
stevenleser
May 2013
#62
Probably true, but I'm being generous since OP seems oblivious to what they have done here. nt
stevenleser
May 2013
#67
Your analogy was a bad one to make that point. You would need to have compared someone
sabrina 1
May 2013
#68
You cannot get to the point to discuss that if someone is being discriminatory
stevenleser
May 2013
#72
Of course you can. I have managed to discuss issues and even change minds, by stating facts
sabrina 1
May 2013
#107
To do so is a kick in the face to the discriminated against group. I won't do it.
stevenleser
May 2013
#110
That is very easy for you to say. You are not part of the group being stereotyped here.
stevenleser
May 2013
#169
thomas and cain aren't dissidents, they're agents of state power. stupid analogy.
HiPointDem
May 2013
#46
Yes, indeed. A man who supported John Kerry. A man who protested against
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#119
He was a member of the Stonewall Democrats which supported Kerry enthusiastically.
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#200
Thanks for including the video in your OP. I was at that protest, though blocked from attending
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#206
Thanks...I had it posted at #13 in the thread but, no one read it even though the
KoKo
May 2013
#209
He a Democrat and a member of an organization that ENTHUSIASTICALLY supported Kerry.
Luminous Animal
May 2013
#208
I believe thinking reasonable people should stop replying to KoKo on this thread.
dballance
May 2013
#32
Bottom line: Your OP is borderline discriminatory as it proposes the LGBT community is monolithic
stevenleser
May 2013
#39
Oh please. Stop being deliberately obtuse with the "Clarence Thomas" nonsense.
Nye Bevan
May 2013
#45
steven brought him up. that is my only comment beyond the comment, to steve, that it's a
HiPointDem
May 2013
#113
And once again, you demostrate why you are a TRUE ally to our cause...
Behind the Aegis
May 2013
#60
You're right, but as I said above in #67, I don't think the OP really understands that.
stevenleser
May 2013
#172
Many of us do, but it is not a LGBT issue so our organiztions probably don't want to touch it.
hrmjustin
May 2013
#74
LGBTers that are Obama loyalists and/or log cabin types don't like him. the one who bad mouthed him
boilerbabe
May 2013
#89
Thats a mighty big brush your painting with and it's not dipped in rainbow paint.
William769
May 2013
#143
I think you're labouring under the misapprehension that homosexuality is a political position.
sibelian
May 2013
#145
Is he gay? I thought he had 'gender personality disorder' and wasn't even sure himself.
randome
May 2013
#195
Not sure of the premise of OP: LGBTs don't support Bradley. Largely we do. But....
Smarmie Doofus
May 2013
#240
No secret handshakes or coded plans to corrupt the world? Huh. How disappointing.
randome
May 2013
#247