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55. He wouldn't of signed the NDAA, and Warrant less taps started..

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Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:43 AM

Jun 2013

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with Shrub, and that was the apparatus that brought us here today .

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Al Gore calls Obama administration’s collection of phone records ‘obscenely outrageous’ [View all] cal04 Jun 2013 OP

Greenwald works for the Guardian now? And I like Gore, but babylonsister Jun 2013 #1

What? You need someone to explain to you how this blanket surveillance is bad? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #4

I haven't seen a link to 'blanket surveillance' yet, just babylonsister Jun 2013 #7

This Might Help: WillyT Jun 2013 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #38

Here you go pam4water Jun 2013 #94

Make room for Gore under the bus! NOVA_Dem Jun 2013 #29

He has an impeccable track record of doing this all of the time. He RKP5637 Jun 2013 #57

Is there still room for all the Democrats and Liberals who are under that bus anymore? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #86

They have a bigger bus on order - it has not been delivered yet. n/t xocet Jun 2013 #104

Buses AND drones! nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #138

Can't fit him. He put one weight and I push Assange and Manning as far to that back of under pam4water Jun 2013 #95

Yet another WTF! Transparent government? Right, transparent for RKP5637 Jun 2013 #52

"many Americans remain docile lemmings and guppies, bred to follow whatever and to be cheerleaders" rhett o rick Jun 2013 #70

And when one tries to point this out one is often met with RKP5637 Jun 2013 #73

K&R Obscene, outrageous, and SOP for the Obama administration. forestpath Jun 2013 #2

Al Gore's a right wing hack, amiright? n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #3

Just another 'bagger hater. Probably a Paul supporter as well Dragonfli Jun 2013 #10

He clearly doesn't know a good chess move when he sees one. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #48

80/20! LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #99

LOL yup. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #100

Beauty! choie Jun 2013 #115

Privacy needs to make a comeback.... and soon... midnight Jun 2013 #5

Sadly not with this administration, IMO ... the track record does not RKP5637 Jun 2013 #58

Let the reason come through loud and clear-ASAP... midnight Jun 2013 #97

One would think/hope so. I really find it hard to believe any think RKP5637 Jun 2013 #114

When Pres Obama took the presidency, he was handed the power to rhett o rick Jun 2013 #6

Would he 'set things right' by executive order or what actually madokie Jun 2013 #9

Pesky facts, madokie! babylonsister Jun 2013 #11

I know madokie Jun 2013 #14

Well, he could not use the powers that are supposedly given to him. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #20

So since the previous guy did it, he HAS to do it too? progressoid Jun 2013 #24

He could order a stand-down on this kind of massive surveillance. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #28

If Obama stopped doing it, it would still be legal George Gently Jun 2013 #41

You object to Republican Presidents violating more laws than Democratic Presidents MNBrewer Jun 2013 #56

Isn't the point that they are not violating any laws? George Gently Jun 2013 #72

No MNBrewer Jun 2013 #117

Yes. But he could do that until Congress decided otherwise. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #83

"Until Congress decides otherwise?" Congress has already not decided otherwise. George Gently Jun 2013 #84

Obama is wrong, very wrong, on this issue. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #92

Freedom of speech marions ghost Jun 2013 #98

For me, it is even more about chilling freedom of association. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #102

They may not be "listening in on actual calls" daily but marions ghost Jun 2013 #103

This order has been renewed quarterly for the last seven years. George Gently Jun 2013 #111

Did you realize this? marions ghost Jun 2013 #125

UK: Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws George Gently Jun 2013 #141

We do not have enough legal protections for this kind of "monitoring" marions ghost Jun 2013 #143

Remember when Obama spoke of 'transparency in government' and claimed Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #127

Legally, our right to freely communicate with our friends without JDPriestly Jun 2013 #130

it sounds like, as a general rule, you prefer blue to red frylock Jun 2013 #108

Yes, but dont make the decision any more complicated by bringing in those rhett o rick Jun 2013 #120

Indeed. George Gently Jun 2013 #123

Well, then... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #116

Would you agree to remove his power to conduct wars because he's a Democrat? George Gently Jun 2013 #121

No, party has zero to do with it... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #124

Really? George Gently Jun 2013 #140

So your logic is that a dictator is ok if he calls himself/herself a Democrat. It's all in the name? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #119

How is enforcing a duly, enacted law being a dictator? George Gently Jun 2013 #122

Most things he can't do by himself but that hasn't stopped him from doing them. cui bono Jun 2013 #31

He's powerless to control his own administration? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #49

Considering that he can't seem to get anyone approved for anything madokie Jun 2013 #50

What's your drift? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #51

One of the things Obama said ... and it goes like this RKP5637 Jun 2013 #59

That is why I still support him madokie Jun 2013 #74

Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #75

Tool Sharpener Needed pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #105

This was not a legislated act the president was obligated to uphold Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #76

I am glad you asked. In 2008 he could have championed legislation that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #118

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #39

Once the executive gains another power... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #112

I no longer defend Obama Ter Jun 2013 #8

I would setlle just for some rational explanation of Obama's choices BlueStreak Jun 2013 #30

it's starting to look less like a *right wing machine* backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #35

If one takes away all of the labels of D, R and I it's all RKP5637 Jun 2013 #63

Obama is the ultimate pragmatist BlueStreak Jun 2013 #77

Excellent assessment IMO! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #78

The powers that be will not give us a true liberal choice. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #80

Regarding Mr. Fish BlueStreak Jun 2013 #82

The "rational explanation" is the corruption of our government, both parties,by corporate money. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #132

Somewhere Bush is laughing his ass off MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #12

Yep, exactly ... and probably not only Bush, but a lot of RKP5637 Jun 2013 #65

Somewhere Iliyah Jun 2013 #13

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #15

Legal, court order, done. gulliver Jun 2013 #17

Couldn't Obama order the NSA not to pull this kind of crap? BlueCheese Jun 2013 #19

Yes, Obama could order the NSA not to do this. RILib Jun 2013 #64

John Yoo is that you? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #26

It's not a helpful interpretation. It's accepted tradition. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #43

Yep. Despicable practice, but legal. Bush & Co. didn't bother with the FISA court. KeepItReal Jun 2013 #62

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #106

Are they serious? BlueCheese Jun 2013 #18

They will be inundated with data. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #81

Thank you, Al Gore. woo me with science Jun 2013 #21

Apparently not. When I first saw this I just started laughing at the image of the heads Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #37

This just seems weird Mz Pip Jun 2013 #22

There is no end of time and resources for the military and our many spy agencies. progressoid Jun 2013 #25

Oh there's probably one out there. dkf Jun 2013 #27

computers RILib Jun 2013 #45

Every telecom in the country has the same orders hugo_from_TN Jun 2013 #107

I bet he voted for Nader in 2000... toddaa Jun 2013 #23

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #32

Can You Hear Me Now pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #33

Guess Greenwald's about to be investigated too. n/t B2G Jun 2013 #79

Where's Al Gore Politicalboi Jun 2013 #34

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #36

That picture sure tells a lot ... so many brainwashed to take RKP5637 Jun 2013 #67

Al Gore is still telling inconvenient truths. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #40

How dare he criticize the Icon n2doc Jun 2013 #42

Of all the bad things Obama has done RILib Jun 2013 #44

? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #46

If our guy does it it's okay. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #47

As Gomer said.. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #53

Al Gore, like many at DU, needs to chill and see what rationale and details emerge. randome Jun 2013 #54

Yep! We do not have enough information to know why RKP5637 Jun 2013 #69

Verizon is the one that was leaked. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #87

Feinstein says it is renewed every 3 months and has been going on for 7 years. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #88

Right marions ghost Jun 2013 #101

All the affected language. 'Chill'? Really? My lord it is painful to see. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #128

He wouldn't of signed the NDAA, and Warrant less taps started.. orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #55

Al Gore never really loved him! QC Jun 2013 #60

The defenders of this will say "I didn't like him anyway" Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #61

Thank you Al Gore Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #66

I hardly think a Tweet is much of a 'voice of reason'. randome Jun 2013 #68

Isn't Gore a known operative for Rove? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #71

No Al, it's not just you... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #85

One wonder how many American lives have been saved through this illicit snooping in relation to indepat Jun 2013 #89

Typical WaPo spin of late ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #90

Everybody knows it. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #91

He gave hour long speeches about the Bush Administration... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #93

Does this qualify Gore as a "professional leftist" or "firebagger"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #96

This is interesting in light of Al Gore being an ardent defender of the "clipper" encryption chip... cascadiance Jun 2013 #109

Al Gore 2016. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #110

Hubby just said to me tavernier Jun 2013 #113

I support Al Gores statement newmember Jun 2013 #126

I trust Al Gore... maybe he can be dragged back into public service? nt Celldweller Jun 2013 #129

I hope he does run. Even if he doesn't win, it can impact the debate and the issues. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #131

How's the view from under the bus, ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #134

ouch. uppityperson Jun 2013 #135

he was elected in 2000 TeamPooka Jun 2013 #136

Yup. He was elected, Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #139

whatever...........this douche never fought for his rightful win Demonaut Jun 2013 #137

bullfuckingshit. cali Jun 2013 #142

you're right, emotional reaction to his comment Demonaut Jun 2013 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author Demonaut Jun 2013 #144

I hear he had to walk that back today to just "grotesquely outrageous!" kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #146