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Bluenorthwest

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128. All the affected language. 'Chill'? Really? My lord it is painful to see.

Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:47 PM

Jun 2013

When people feel the need to characterize any discussion as 'heads on fire' and that sort of stupid phraseology you know they are selling something they don't know how to sell. 'You got to chill, your head's on fire, what does Gore know about government, listen to meeeeeeeeee'.

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Al Gore calls Obama administration’s collection of phone records ‘obscenely outrageous’ [View all] cal04 Jun 2013 OP

Greenwald works for the Guardian now? And I like Gore, but babylonsister Jun 2013 #1

What? You need someone to explain to you how this blanket surveillance is bad? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #4

I haven't seen a link to 'blanket surveillance' yet, just babylonsister Jun 2013 #7

This Might Help: WillyT Jun 2013 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #38

Here you go pam4water Jun 2013 #94

Make room for Gore under the bus! NOVA_Dem Jun 2013 #29

He has an impeccable track record of doing this all of the time. He RKP5637 Jun 2013 #57

Is there still room for all the Democrats and Liberals who are under that bus anymore? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #86

They have a bigger bus on order - it has not been delivered yet. n/t xocet Jun 2013 #104

Buses AND drones! nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #138

Can't fit him. He put one weight and I push Assange and Manning as far to that back of under pam4water Jun 2013 #95

Yet another WTF! Transparent government? Right, transparent for RKP5637 Jun 2013 #52

"many Americans remain docile lemmings and guppies, bred to follow whatever and to be cheerleaders" rhett o rick Jun 2013 #70

And when one tries to point this out one is often met with RKP5637 Jun 2013 #73

K&R Obscene, outrageous, and SOP for the Obama administration. forestpath Jun 2013 #2

Al Gore's a right wing hack, amiright? n/t cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #3

Just another 'bagger hater. Probably a Paul supporter as well Dragonfli Jun 2013 #10

He clearly doesn't know a good chess move when he sees one. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #48

80/20! LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #99

LOL yup. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #100

Beauty! choie Jun 2013 #115

Privacy needs to make a comeback.... and soon... midnight Jun 2013 #5

Sadly not with this administration, IMO ... the track record does not RKP5637 Jun 2013 #58

Let the reason come through loud and clear-ASAP... midnight Jun 2013 #97

One would think/hope so. I really find it hard to believe any think RKP5637 Jun 2013 #114

When Pres Obama took the presidency, he was handed the power to rhett o rick Jun 2013 #6

Would he 'set things right' by executive order or what actually madokie Jun 2013 #9

Pesky facts, madokie! babylonsister Jun 2013 #11

I know madokie Jun 2013 #14

Well, he could not use the powers that are supposedly given to him. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #20

So since the previous guy did it, he HAS to do it too? progressoid Jun 2013 #24

He could order a stand-down on this kind of massive surveillance. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #28

If Obama stopped doing it, it would still be legal George Gently Jun 2013 #41

You object to Republican Presidents violating more laws than Democratic Presidents MNBrewer Jun 2013 #56

Isn't the point that they are not violating any laws? George Gently Jun 2013 #72

No MNBrewer Jun 2013 #117

Yes. But he could do that until Congress decided otherwise. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #83

"Until Congress decides otherwise?" Congress has already not decided otherwise. George Gently Jun 2013 #84

Obama is wrong, very wrong, on this issue. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #92

Freedom of speech marions ghost Jun 2013 #98

For me, it is even more about chilling freedom of association. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #102

They may not be "listening in on actual calls" daily but marions ghost Jun 2013 #103

This order has been renewed quarterly for the last seven years. George Gently Jun 2013 #111

Did you realize this? marions ghost Jun 2013 #125

UK: Email and web use 'to be monitored' under new laws George Gently Jun 2013 #141

We do not have enough legal protections for this kind of "monitoring" marions ghost Jun 2013 #143

Remember when Obama spoke of 'transparency in government' and claimed Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #127

Legally, our right to freely communicate with our friends without JDPriestly Jun 2013 #130

it sounds like, as a general rule, you prefer blue to red frylock Jun 2013 #108

Yes, but dont make the decision any more complicated by bringing in those rhett o rick Jun 2013 #120

Indeed. George Gently Jun 2013 #123

Well, then... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #116

Would you agree to remove his power to conduct wars because he's a Democrat? George Gently Jun 2013 #121

No, party has zero to do with it... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #124

Really? George Gently Jun 2013 #140

So your logic is that a dictator is ok if he calls himself/herself a Democrat. It's all in the name? rhett o rick Jun 2013 #119

How is enforcing a duly, enacted law being a dictator? George Gently Jun 2013 #122

Most things he can't do by himself but that hasn't stopped him from doing them. cui bono Jun 2013 #31

He's powerless to control his own administration? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #49

Considering that he can't seem to get anyone approved for anything madokie Jun 2013 #50

What's your drift? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #51

One of the things Obama said ... and it goes like this RKP5637 Jun 2013 #59

That is why I still support him madokie Jun 2013 #74

Yep!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #75

Tool Sharpener Needed pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #105

This was not a legislated act the president was obligated to uphold Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #76

I am glad you asked. In 2008 he could have championed legislation that rhett o rick Jun 2013 #118

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Once the executive gains another power... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #112

I no longer defend Obama Ter Jun 2013 #8

I would setlle just for some rational explanation of Obama's choices BlueStreak Jun 2013 #30

it's starting to look less like a *right wing machine* backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #35

If one takes away all of the labels of D, R and I it's all RKP5637 Jun 2013 #63

Obama is the ultimate pragmatist BlueStreak Jun 2013 #77

Excellent assessment IMO! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2013 #78

The powers that be will not give us a true liberal choice. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #80

Regarding Mr. Fish BlueStreak Jun 2013 #82

The "rational explanation" is the corruption of our government, both parties,by corporate money. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #132

Somewhere Bush is laughing his ass off MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #12

Yep, exactly ... and probably not only Bush, but a lot of RKP5637 Jun 2013 #65

Somewhere Iliyah Jun 2013 #13

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #15

Legal, court order, done. gulliver Jun 2013 #17

Couldn't Obama order the NSA not to pull this kind of crap? BlueCheese Jun 2013 #19

Yes, Obama could order the NSA not to do this. RILib Jun 2013 #64

John Yoo is that you? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #26

It's not a helpful interpretation. It's accepted tradition. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #43

Yep. Despicable practice, but legal. Bush & Co. didn't bother with the FISA court. KeepItReal Jun 2013 #62

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #106

Are they serious? BlueCheese Jun 2013 #18

They will be inundated with data. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #81

Thank you, Al Gore. woo me with science Jun 2013 #21

Apparently not. When I first saw this I just started laughing at the image of the heads Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #37

This just seems weird Mz Pip Jun 2013 #22

There is no end of time and resources for the military and our many spy agencies. progressoid Jun 2013 #25

Oh there's probably one out there. dkf Jun 2013 #27

computers RILib Jun 2013 #45

Every telecom in the country has the same orders hugo_from_TN Jun 2013 #107

I bet he voted for Nader in 2000... toddaa Jun 2013 #23

LOL pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #32

Can You Hear Me Now pmorlan1 Jun 2013 #33

Guess Greenwald's about to be investigated too. n/t B2G Jun 2013 #79

Where's Al Gore Politicalboi Jun 2013 #34

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #36

That picture sure tells a lot ... so many brainwashed to take RKP5637 Jun 2013 #67

Al Gore is still telling inconvenient truths. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #40

How dare he criticize the Icon n2doc Jun 2013 #42

Of all the bad things Obama has done RILib Jun 2013 #44

? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #46

If our guy does it it's okay. nt Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #47

As Gomer said.. Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #53

Al Gore, like many at DU, needs to chill and see what rationale and details emerge. randome Jun 2013 #54

Yep! We do not have enough information to know why RKP5637 Jun 2013 #69

Verizon is the one that was leaked. BlueCheese Jun 2013 #87

Feinstein says it is renewed every 3 months and has been going on for 7 years. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #88

Right marions ghost Jun 2013 #101

All the affected language. 'Chill'? Really? My lord it is painful to see. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #128

He wouldn't of signed the NDAA, and Warrant less taps started.. orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #55

Al Gore never really loved him! QC Jun 2013 #60

The defenders of this will say "I didn't like him anyway" Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #61

Thank you Al Gore Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #66

I hardly think a Tweet is much of a 'voice of reason'. randome Jun 2013 #68

Isn't Gore a known operative for Rove? MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #71

No Al, it's not just you... truebrit71 Jun 2013 #85

One wonder how many American lives have been saved through this illicit snooping in relation to indepat Jun 2013 #89

Typical WaPo spin of late ... brett_jv Jun 2013 #90

Everybody knows it. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #91

He gave hour long speeches about the Bush Administration... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #93

Does this qualify Gore as a "professional leftist" or "firebagger"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #96

This is interesting in light of Al Gore being an ardent defender of the "clipper" encryption chip... cascadiance Jun 2013 #109

Al Gore 2016. nt limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #110

Hubby just said to me tavernier Jun 2013 #113

I support Al Gores statement newmember Jun 2013 #126

I trust Al Gore... maybe he can be dragged back into public service? nt Celldweller Jun 2013 #129

I hope he does run. Even if he doesn't win, it can impact the debate and the issues. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #131

How's the view from under the bus, ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #134

ouch. uppityperson Jun 2013 #135

he was elected in 2000 TeamPooka Jun 2013 #136

Yup. He was elected, Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #139

whatever...........this douche never fought for his rightful win Demonaut Jun 2013 #137

bullfuckingshit. cali Jun 2013 #142

you're right, emotional reaction to his comment Demonaut Jun 2013 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author Demonaut Jun 2013 #144

I hear he had to walk that back today to just "grotesquely outrageous!" kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #146