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13. Obama shifted before his first election
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:36 PM
Jun 2013

Last edited Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:13 PM - Edit history (1)

from July 9, 2008:


In February Obama voted in favor of the an amendment from Sens. Chris Dodd, D-Conn., and Russ Feingold, D-Wisc., to repeal retroactive immunity for telecoms, saying, “I am proud to stand with Senator Dodd, Senator Feingold and a grassroots movement of Americans who are refusing to let President Bush put protections for special interests ahead of our security and our liberty. There is no reason why telephone companies should be given blanket immunity to cover violations of the rights of the American people – we must reaffirm that no one in this country is above the law. We can give our intelligence and law enforcement community the powers they need to track down and take out terrorists without undermining our commitment to the rule of law, or our basic rights and liberties.”


Free from the political pressures of the Democratic primaries, Obama now says he will vote for the FISA bill even if it doesn’t include retroactive immunity for the telecoms.

And moreover, he will no longer support a filibuster of the bill if it doesn’t include telecom immunity.

“My view on FISA has always been that the issue with phone companies per se is not one that overrides security interests of the American people,” Obama told reporters on June 25. “It is a close call for me but I think the current legislation with exclusivity provision that says that a president — whether George Bush, myself or John McCain — can’t make up rationales for getting around FISA court, can’t suggest that somehow that there is some law that stands above the laws passed by Congress in engaging in warrantless wiretaps.”

Obama also said the FISA compromise was an improvement since it would put an “inspector general in place to investigate what happened previously gives us insight what has happened retrospectively. So, you know, that in my mind met my basic concerns and given that all the information I received is the underlying program itself actually is important and useful to American security as long as it has these constraints on them. I thought it was more important for me to go ahead and support this compromise.”


read: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/07/obamas-fisa-shi/


Home Truths, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2013 #1
yes. djean111 Jun 2013 #2
"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same." Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #3
Great quote. nt riqster Jun 2013 #4
This has to be the first time I've ever said the Rude Pundit is full of shit 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #5
Your authoritarianism is unwanted here. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #8
Do you understand how ironic it is for you to say that? 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #16
LOL! Aldo Leopold Jun 2013 #29
Because he said that ship has sailed? tavalon Jun 2013 #20
why? uponit7771 Jun 2013 #26
As sure as the Sun rises in the East, you can bank on the Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #6
Yep. premium Jun 2013 #10
This power is exercised by elected and UN-elected government officials for the benefit of their Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #14
Agreed. The surveillance horse left the barn a long time ago. DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #7
nominate and elect a president who is diametrically opposed to these policies and laws bigtree Jun 2013 #9
The problem is that *our* candidate for president said exactly that when he was running. He said he SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #11
Obama shifted before his first election bigtree Jun 2013 #13
Good information. Thanks. (nt) SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #15
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #25
So in other words Maven Jun 2013 #35
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #19
i thought that i did.. frylock Jun 2013 #21
There are only 2 politicians I can think of who I really believe might stop this if POTUS AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #30
Link ... meegbear Jun 2013 #12
I prefer to link to the author's site when possible. riqster Jun 2013 #22
I link there as well ... meegbear Jun 2013 #33
Excellent. riqster Jun 2013 #34
you want privacy? SHRED Jun 2013 #17
There is always time to turn back. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #18
No doubt. The bullshit narrative that paints this like overcoming the laws of physics is pitiful TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #31
completely fucking true and well said. librechik Jun 2013 #23
Wow ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #24
Well I am sure things like that did not happen before the patriot act. /nt still_one Jun 2013 #27
I guess that has to be true if LWolf Jun 2013 #28
Yup, You Can't Unfuck a Fuck Skraxx Jun 2013 #32
Spot fucking on Blue Owl Jun 2013 #36
Bin Laden won. mick063 Jun 2013 #37
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