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tavalon

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20. Because he said that ship has sailed?

Reply to 1-Old-Man (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:21 PM

Jun 2013

He's right. I'm just as sick about this as I was when this happened under Bush (though my tin foil hatted head said it had started well before). No one will ever turn back. When our society falls, as all who overreach do (no, I'm not talking about this issue, I'm talking about imperialism, We will fall. All empires do), then nobody will be surveilling, but the stuff will still be there, just like the Russian nukes, unguarded and unnoticed, by most.

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The Rude Pundit Nails the Surveillance Issue [View all] riqster Jun 2013 OP

Home Truths, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2013 #1

yes. djean111 Jun 2013 #2

"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same." Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #3

Great quote. nt riqster Jun 2013 #4

This has to be the first time I've ever said the Rude Pundit is full of shit 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #5

Your authoritarianism is unwanted here. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #8

Do you understand how ironic it is for you to say that? 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #16

LOL! Aldo Leopold Jun 2013 #29

Because he said that ship has sailed? tavalon Jun 2013 #20

why? uponit7771 Jun 2013 #26

As sure as the Sun rises in the East, you can bank on the Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #6

Yep. premium Jun 2013 #10

This power is exercised by elected and UN-elected government officials for the benefit of their Dustlawyer Jun 2013 #14

Agreed. The surveillance horse left the barn a long time ago. DinahMoeHum Jun 2013 #7

nominate and elect a president who is diametrically opposed to these policies and laws bigtree Jun 2013 #9

The problem is that *our* candidate for president said exactly that when he was running. He said he SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #11

Obama shifted before his first election bigtree Jun 2013 #13

Good information. Thanks. (nt) SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #15

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #25

So in other words Maven Jun 2013 #35

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2013 #19

i thought that i did.. frylock Jun 2013 #21

There are only 2 politicians I can think of who I really believe might stop this if POTUS AnnieK401 Jun 2013 #30

Link ... meegbear Jun 2013 #12

I prefer to link to the author's site when possible. riqster Jun 2013 #22

I link there as well ... meegbear Jun 2013 #33

Excellent. riqster Jun 2013 #34

you want privacy? SHRED Jun 2013 #17

There is always time to turn back. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #18

No doubt. The bullshit narrative that paints this like overcoming the laws of physics is pitiful TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #31

completely fucking true and well said. librechik Jun 2013 #23

Wow ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #24

Well I am sure things like that did not happen before the patriot act. /nt still_one Jun 2013 #27

I guess that has to be true if LWolf Jun 2013 #28

Yup, You Can't Unfuck a Fuck Skraxx Jun 2013 #32

Spot fucking on Blue Owl Jun 2013 #36

Bin Laden won. mick063 Jun 2013 #37