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In reply to the discussion: "Edward Snowden ONLINE NOW" Transcript/Raw data of what he really said & how he said it [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)2. Q - What are your thoughts on Google's and Facebook's denials?
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HaraldK
17 June 2013 2:45pm
What are your thoughts on Google's and Facebook's denials? Do you think that they're honestly in the dark about PRISM, or do you think they're compelled to lie?
Perhaps this is a better question to a lawyer like Greenwald, but: If you're presented with a secret order that you're forbidding to reveal the existence of, what will they actually do if you simply refuse to comply (without revealing the order)?
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HaraldK
17 June 2013 2:45pm
What are your thoughts on Google's and Facebook's denials? Do you think that they're honestly in the dark about PRISM, or do you think they're compelled to lie?
Perhaps this is a better question to a lawyer like Greenwald, but: If you're presented with a secret order that you're forbidding to reveal the existence of, what will they actually do if you simply refuse to comply (without revealing the order)?
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Their denials went through several revisions as it become more and more clear they were misleading and included identical, specific language across companies. As a result of these disclosures and the clout of these companies, we're finally beginning to see more transparency and better details about these programs for the first time since their inception.
They are legally compelled to comply and maintain their silence in regard to specifics of the program, but that does not comply them from ethical obligation. If for example Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple refused to provide this cooperation with the Intelligence Community, what do you think the government would do? Shut them down?
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"Edward Snowden ONLINE NOW" Transcript/Raw data of what he really said & how he said it [View all]
Catherina
Jun 2013
OP
I doubt he's a spy, anyways. He's too unsophisticated, as evidenced by this live Q&A.
randome
Jun 2013
#13
This is more flip bs without specifics, so far I'm learning nothing but we'll see
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#14
I wouldn't worry too much. I don't think the NSA is worried about you at all!
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#35
It's a computer that allows only authorized access for the express purpose of transferring files.
randome
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#98
What I don't like is republican (or perhaps in this case libertarian) trickery
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#26
I would like a more techincal answer than this....give us a breakdown of HOW they have direct access
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Thank you for the solidarity. Down in the trenches, it's all we have. Little people solidarity
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#49
You're welcome. I hope it this raw record serves DU for the greater good DU n/t
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***Consolidated Post - Edward Snowden Q&A*** (Updated with Gang of Eight information)
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