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19. FISA has now been shown to be a fig leaf

Reply to Liberal Veteran (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:53 PM

Jun 2013

This dragnet surveillance of all Americans has shown the whole purported FISA setup is meaningless. The FISA concept sounds good but, in practice, we see that it is just a fig leaf to cover blatantly illegal, unconstitutional and, frankly, unamerican behavior.

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What is it you want to see happen with the NSA? [View all] Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 OP

Make the rich stop stealing our resources leftstreet Jun 2013 #1

How? Would you make a database to see who might be exploiting our resources unfairly? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #2

No dragnet data collection. Access through warrant with probable cause. dkf Jun 2013 #3

What constitutes probable cause for data collection? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #5

If you've been in contact with a terrorist, I think they should be able to get a warrant to look dkf Jun 2013 #10

If no one is looking, however, how would one know? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #18

It's fine to examine the web of known terrorists. dkf Jun 2013 #23

Your essay is based on a false statement of fact PSPS Jun 2013 #4

As I recall, on this very board, most of us were arguing in favor of FISA when Bush... Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #6

FISA has now been shown to be a fig leaf PSPS Jun 2013 #19

Actually Bush did not want to wait for FISA Court time frame for an answer, he wanted to make the Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #26

Exactly my point. And the majority here at least was against bypassing FISA. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #30

I want their activities scaled back to off-shore and direct military support only. 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #7

DITTO! marions ghost Jun 2013 #11

according to a Teabagger. Let's not forget the source. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #15

So what? If I do agree with a teabagger for once marions ghost Jun 2013 #24

Secret domestic surveillance is not analogous to healthcare. DirkGently Jun 2013 #8

Excellent post! marions ghost Jun 2013 #13

You know, any questions marions ghost Jun 2013 #9

I see. So what do you do about overlap? Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #14

There are established protocols marions ghost Jun 2013 #21

Information is property now, so we need a clear definition of who owns it. bemildred Jun 2013 #12

The depth and breadth of the topic warrants transparency on behalf of the NSA first... Earth_First Jun 2013 #16

Well, there is that. Perhaps a dismantle and complete rebuild is order. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #28

Contractors removed from the system entirely. Data held for only 5 years by telecom co's. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #17

That is the beginning of good... Pholus Jun 2013 #22

It's called the National Security Agency reteachinwi Jun 2013 #20

Put more women in positions of authority. It's worth a try. nt FLyellowdog Jun 2013 #25

Two suggestions. moondust Jun 2013 #27

Good suggestions. Both of them. Liberal Veteran Jun 2013 #29