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In reply to the discussion: FISA & EPCA the facts & nothing more [View all]Monkie
(1,301 posts)51. i put up, miss anonymous expert, and all you did was cry and cry "the law the law"
i showed you exactly how the law can be interpreted to be what a judge rules it to be, a whole review of fair use ambiguity.
and still you are not being completely truthful in what you say:
The only things being kept secret is the court orders themselves & the Intel
you forgot how those that petition that chose to interpret the law, that is also secret.
you seem only to be used to countering the arguments of people that are impressed by your claims of authority, and sycophants who agree with you without even looking at the real substance of what you say.
you claim expertise, but my whole professional life is dealing with people who twist words to suit their purpose, and leave out what they wish you to ignore. im not fooled by you for one second.
you show your true colours when as anonymous expert you dare to call the constitutional lawyer greenwald, the yale professor of constitutional law Jack M. Balkin (educated at harvard), and the ACLU's deputy legal director Jameel Jaffer (educated at harvard) jokes. and by implication their opinions on the law a joke, that is quite the claim for a anonymous expert to make.
let me remind you who jameel jaffer is, and what his democratic credentials are:
Jameel Jaffer is a human rights and civil liberties attorney who is deputy legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union. He is particularly notable for the role he played in litigating Freedom of Information Act requests that led to the U.S. government's release of over one hundred thousand pages of documents related to the torture of prisoners held by the U.S. at Guantanamo and elsewhere. Among the documents released through that litigation were interrogation directives signed by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, emails written by FBI agents who witnessed the torture of prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, legal memos in which the Office of Legal Counsel stated that U.S. law did not prohibit the President from authorizing torture, and autopsy reports relating to prisoners who were killed in U.S. custody.
so who are we to believe in this?
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Nope, certain things apply to US Persons & Non US Persons everyone within the US is considered a US
giftedgirl77
Jun 2013
#32
as the other poster has shown, claiming something is misinformation does not make it so
Monkie
Jun 2013
#36
i put up, miss anonymous expert, and all you did was cry and cry "the law the law"
Monkie
Jun 2013
#51
so why wont you answer the real question, the lawyers questions?straw men and "facts"
Monkie
Jun 2013
#20
again, if i had seen you had also responded to me after attacking the other person
Monkie
Jun 2013
#24
Yeah, where were all of you complainers back in 1979? I didn't see you make a PEEP back then!
MNBrewer
Jun 2013
#6
Thanks giftedgirl. We need more info and less hype around here. From the posts i've read you
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#16