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In reply to the discussion: it isn't the legalities...it's the betrayal that's pissing people off [View all]HardTimes99
(2,049 posts)53. I'd be tempted to follow your oh-so-tempting Occam's Razor
explanation, were it not for this disturbing little tidbit I was turned onto last night by another DUer:
Does the NSA have something on President Barack Obama? Maybe, according to former intelligence analyst and whistler-blower Russell Tice. In a radio interview Tice alleged that the NSA ordered a wiretap on Barack Obama in 2004.
Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst who in 2005 blew the whistle on what he alleged was massive unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple agencies, claimed Wednesday that the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama in 2004…
“Here’s the big one … this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois,” he said. “You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”
What did the NSA find out? All Obama’s phone calls and emails were scooped up – was there anything damaging? Such an action would be a great way to gain leverage over a politician and make sure they don’t cancel your program – Tice alleges it was also done to a wide variety of politicians and officials.
“I was worried that the intelligence community now has sway over what is going on,” Tice said.
Russ Tice, a former intelligence analyst who in 2005 blew the whistle on what he alleged was massive unconstitutional domestic spying across multiple agencies, claimed Wednesday that the NSA had ordered wiretaps on phones connected to then-Senate candidate Barack Obama in 2004…
“Here’s the big one … this was in summer of 2004, one of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator for Illinois,” he said. “You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, D.C. That’s who they went after, and that’s the president of the United States now.”
What did the NSA find out? All Obama’s phone calls and emails were scooped up – was there anything damaging? Such an action would be a great way to gain leverage over a politician and make sure they don’t cancel your program – Tice alleges it was also done to a wide variety of politicians and officials.
“I was worried that the intelligence community now has sway over what is going on,” Tice said.
http://news.firedoglake.com/2013/06/21/former-intelligence-analyst-obama-was-wiretapped-by-nsa-in-2004/
Thus far, I've seen no independent cooroboration of these allegations from any other source. But I can't help wondering . . .
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it isn't the legalities...it's the betrayal that's pissing people off [View all]
backwoodsbob
Jun 2013
OP
Authoritarianism sucks. I hope that with each passing day more and more people can disabuse
stillwaiting
Jun 2013
#17
Obama and his Administration have done (and not done) enough to warrant the criticism
stillwaiting
Jun 2013
#21
His ruinous education policies which undermine the very foundation of democracy,
duffyduff
Jun 2013
#110
The two party system is a tag team that advances its agenda by deception.
Eddie Haskell
Jun 2013
#81
Its not that the president of the US is weak its that if one of the political parties wants to
cstanleytech
Jun 2013
#106
+1. there's more on that list too. said he'd end the war & expanded it, said he'd close
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#77
You gave me a great tip about track bowling ball, so I will refrain. LOL. (this time)
graham4anything
Jun 2013
#54
Why does our Constitutional Law Professor President now hate us for our freedoms?
90-percent
Jun 2013
#62
whether they *are* blackmailing or not, they have the capability. they possibly even have the
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#75
a cheesy bad movie but there's lots of food for thought in it -- has the same scenario
HiPointDem
Jun 2013
#117
But, he did keep his campaign promise to escalate the war in Afghanistan.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Jun 2013
#74
Mostly if you didn't know you were voting for the lesser of two evils then........
nolabels
Jun 2013
#83
but, but. what about the relaxed confidence, the great smile. the awesome wife and kids. and the abs
KG
Jun 2013
#85
Right You Are - When Politicians Make Promises They Don't Intend To Keep - There's A Place In ...
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#93
I just came back to respond to this thread a second time. You nailed it. nt
Poll_Blind
Jun 2013
#116
