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87. I read "The Scorpion's Gate." It read like it was written by someone who'd been there

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Michael Hastings and conspiracy theories: Richard Clarke throws fuel on the fire [View all] marmar Jun 2013 OP

scary samsingh Jun 2013 #1

I've never been happier with my 92 Volvo with 239,000 miles. FourScore Jun 2013 #71

Mine's eight years older, US made, but with only ninety thousand miles...~! MADem Jun 2013 #153

Perhaps if the car has a LoJack or similar device ... otherwise, no REP Jun 2013 #2

Lojack? that's just a GPS unit. Onstar could have unlocked his doors though grantcart Jun 2013 #4

My unit will disable the car REP Jun 2013 #11

Especially since an autopsy that showed him in perfect health pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

Holy Toledo, grantcart!! Trying to hijack this spooky conspiracy tale with a Lojack comment!! Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #58

The car was a Mercedes. They have a lot of GPS technology loaded in the car. yardwork Jun 2013 #17

My car is a 'fancier' car than his; I know the technology REP Jun 2013 #37

HMMMV? ReRe Jun 2013 #47

You know the technology? FreeBC Jun 2013 #114

he was murdered BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #34

Tee hee REP Jun 2013 #39

Really? That's an ugly comment. n/t FourScore Jun 2013 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #152

You're 11 years late, but thanks REP Jun 2013 #162

Thank you for that report Car and Driver! ReRe Jun 2013 #50

Wellcome to DU... zeemike Jun 2013 #55

Thank you for the article. If they can kill people from thousands of miles away, I believe Richard sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #69

Welcome to DU, BehindTheCurtain76! FourScore Jun 2013 #70

Welcome! Good post. Just disregard the smug, small minded, douche and/or paid you may run into here. In Truth We Trust Jun 2013 #72

I think so also. Even a car nut truedelphi Jun 2013 #95

I hope you do enjoy your stay. zeeland Jun 2013 #104

Welcome to DU. 1monster Jun 2013 #116

Thanks for the information MissDeeds Jun 2013 #117

Thanks for the info. janlyn Jun 2013 #124

Thanks for the info. My Prius has all sorts of things that are controlled by computer cui bono Jun 2013 #125

thanks heaven05 Jun 2013 #127

Welcome to DU!! summer-hazz Jun 2013 #137

welcome warrprayer Jun 2013 #146

Drone technology has been around for much longer than 1996. MADem Jun 2013 #154

proof? BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #159

I believe his friends and family, and the Sargent who was so concerned about his behavior, his fear, sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #161

Don't go making declarations when you don't know, is all I'm saying. MADem Jun 2013 #163

What a flair for the dramatic. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #168

Published by the NYT 'OPINIONATOR: Exclusive Online Commentary From The Times' on June 14, 2013. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #169

I appreciate your commentary and it makes me wonder zeeland Jun 2013 #172

Welcome to DU. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #166

Not according to DARPA mhatrw Jun 2013 #61

well heaven05 Jun 2013 #129

Oh, crap. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #3

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #5

If they want you, they're going to get you. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #6

I agree and summer-hazz Jun 2013 #139

Car hacking was also attested to by a program manager for DARPA. Video: leveymg Jun 2013 #7

Why anyone thinks this is laughable is beyond me. Good info to know. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #15

Holy crap. And I thought something like Ilsa Jun 2013 #46

Are all cars now computerized? ReRe Jun 2013 #54

Check out this thread dflprincess Jun 2013 #8

That is fascinating. Richard Clarke is one person, whose opinion Autumn Jun 2013 #9

He's one of the few people I'd trust too. Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #23

At least most of what Clarke says can be researched and verified. bearssoapbox Jun 2013 #62

Have you ever read his book "Against All Enemies"? Autumn Jun 2013 #66

I read "The Scorpion's Gate." It read like it was written by someone who'd been there NBachers Jun 2013 #87

This message was self-deleted by its author NBachers Jun 2013 #87

Ditto elleng Jun 2013 #78

HuffPo & Mike Hogan are overlooking or ignoring this key quote to conflate a conspiracy theory - pinto Jun 2013 #10

Clarke is probably right about that. But he also said this: Autumn Jun 2013 #12

So in other words think Jun 2013 #57

no you are BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #51

Sorry, but CIA doesn't just call people's friends and "interview" them like that. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #93

This message was self-deleted by its author BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #156

ok BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #158

Actually, he did say FBI ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #112

ok BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #157

Because maybe it wasn't the FBI, maybe Clarke knows they are not likely to be involved in sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #79

Subject line in his email said FBI Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #94

As we found out during the Bush era, there were many factions in the FBI, and a denial from sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #96

And when the LAPD and coroner finishes their investigation Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #97

You should be more worried about the general loss of faith by the American people, across sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #98

I agree with you about the Iraq War and Wall Street Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #99

You "think" summer-hazz Jun 2013 #143

+1000 heaven05 Jun 2013 #131

what?? heaven05 Jun 2013 #130

Too sadly true allinthegame Jun 2013 #128

Who said anything about FBI? KamaAina Jun 2013 #160

K&R n/t glinda Jun 2013 #13

But one cannot ignore prior plausibility. longship Jun 2013 #14

There is nothing strange about the circumstances treestar Jun 2013 #16

Do you repeat that over and over in a dark room? nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #108

Notice how quiet it is about Hastings? No one ever reported if it was KoKo Jun 2013 #18

Well, you do pose some good questions. senseandsensibility Jun 2013 #21

Some Big Wig at Buzz Feed..(founder or something) just left KoKo Jun 2013 #27

Well, even if it was an accident, this time, letting people think it was not, is likely to create a sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #73

this is far too suspicious from the moment it happened xiamiam Jun 2013 #22

Agree and we know more about the Kardashian Sisters minute to minute KoKo Jun 2013 #30

I have said we need to know what he was doing that night before the accident. Cleita Jun 2013 #31

We haven't even heard where he stayed in LA..when he arrived..and thanks KoKo Jun 2013 #36

Well, let's see how long it is until even a mention of Hastings here relegates a thread to the CS silvershadow Jun 2013 #32

Quiet... ReRe Jun 2013 #59

RE: Suicide by belt justiceischeap Jun 2013 #106

KoKo, plez take two big drinks from the denial kool-aid and repeat after me: rhett o rick Jun 2013 #109

He wasn't living in VT. He moved to LA last OCT to work in the MADem Jun 2013 #164

A Creepy K & R nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #20

So... Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #24

Because a shooting doesn't look like an accident? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #28

I don't mean to be crude or insensitive...but that accident was so horrible KoKo Jun 2013 #38

Actually forensic pathology has made huge advancements Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #65

There was at least enough to identify him. Incitatus Jun 2013 #75

They have to test out all these new weapons somewhere? sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #74

This is AWFUL!!!11!11(one)!!1!! Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #80

Michael Hastings' Panicked, Final Email Hissyspit Jun 2013 #25

Why did he say "Buzzfeed GQ" think4yourself Jun 2013 #33

Er, inside joke? proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #118

I hadn't read this before: sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #86

Modern cars are 'computers on wheels'... no hacking concerns? alittlelark Jun 2013 #29

DARPA bobduca Jun 2013 #40

Now "cash for clunkers" makes sense! (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2013 #35

Q: Where'd all the GLBT cars come from? blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #44

So What About Planes?..... global1 Jun 2013 #41

You are forbidden to make that connection. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #45

Yes. There could be an accident.......nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #107

Bingo BehindTheCurtain76 Jun 2013 #48

I had the same thought. sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #53

Pilot episode : The Lone Gunmen. March 2001 Ichingcarpenter Jun 2013 #90

The comptroller of the Pentagon, Mr. Dove built them AnotherDreamWeaver Jun 2013 #111

+1. Totally possible. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #42

Check out what OnStar can do. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #43

It looks like murder to me! mc51tc Jun 2013 #49

Who do you think murdered him? Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #64

The possibility of carhacking is the scariest thing I've heard of in my life time. Auntie Bush Jun 2013 #52

Someone posted this link a couple of days ago.."Boston Brakes".. truth2power Jun 2013 #56

So,....why do cops still do car chases if they can just be shut off? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #60

If there is such technology, it would take time before it gets to the cops. The military has weapons sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #76

Remember this? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #82

Airwolf would have ended that chopper in about 3 seconds. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #135

Roy Scheider vs Jan Michael Vincent?? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #138

There are a bunch of incredibly terrible youtube videos that play this scenario out. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #140

All done by fans of the TV show. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #144

Ever seen Bait Car? bunnies Jun 2013 #115

facts in a CT thread?..heresy backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #81

I'm an evil bastard. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #83

Because they'd get their asses sued off by all the people injured in the resulting wreck n/t eridani Jun 2013 #91

The stationary car surrounded by patrol cars with sirens wreck? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #100

What stationary car? eridani Jun 2013 #105

The yellow tab is your friend. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #121

I saw a report ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #113

I see a fondness for classic cars in our future. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #119

I agree - wish I had my first car back. n/t ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #120

Not me,...it was a 65 Biscayne station wagon with plywood on the floor to cover the holes.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #122

This was my first car: ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #133

The chicks love this one. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #141

LOL ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #142

The Plot Thickens colsohlibgal Jun 2013 #63

Personally, I don't think you should've changed the title of the article from objective to mocking. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #67

Interesting sudden acceleration article womanofthehills Jun 2013 #77

There was a book published in the 90s about this and many other potential problems eridani Jun 2013 #92

Back in the seventies, CB radios would mess with the cruise control. MindPilot Jun 2013 #123

k and r. time to get a bicycle. bbgrunt Jun 2013 #84

No hacking needed there, just ye olde hit-and-run. JHB Jun 2013 #148

K&R avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #85

I don't do conspiracy theories; I think Oswald acted alone JenniferJuniper Jun 2013 #89

It would be interesting to further explore the angle your expertise gives you. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #101

Has the car been determined? Rental? Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #102

His car, either owned or leased, not a rental. It was a gasoline powered Mercedes C Class. MADem Jun 2013 #155

All car now have computers in them. That is all manufactured after the mid 80's. Lint Head Jun 2013 #103

I believe in conspiracy theories. I know that some here in DU think that CT rhett o rick Jun 2013 #110

Either way... summer-hazz Jun 2013 #147

I agree anything is possible. But if I was intending to kill someone, I wouldnt rely on making the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #151

A lot of you apparently still haven't seen this: snot Jun 2013 #126

There have been reports that cars today can do that. He was driving a Mercedes KoKo Jun 2013 #170

Read the article; this is not a "report that cars can do that"; it's a fact: snot Jun 2013 #171

Shift transmission to neutral. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #132

Not necessarily. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #136

clark mtasselin Jun 2013 #134

We might know the truth in 50 years warrprayer Jun 2013 #145

to reasd later snagglepuss Jun 2013 #149

Just bought our first new cars in 20 years.. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #150

Michael Hastings was not working on Jill Kelley story, wife says. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #165

Interesting..info..! KoKo Jun 2013 #167