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Savannahmann

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Wed Jun 26, 2013, 05:29 AM Jun 2013

OK, now will you listen? [View all]

Last edited Wed Jun 26, 2013, 09:26 AM - Edit history (1)

When the Bradley Manning story started, my question was who gave a 19 year old kid access to the entire collection of secret messages. When the Snowden story started, the first estimate was a thumb drive, now we're hearing that he had four laptops full of data, and that included agents and sources in China/Russia.

OK, so now can somebody tell me how a 29 year old high school drop out working for an outsourced security consulting company got access to what should have been a closely guarded secret accessible only by those who what is euphemistically called need to know? Are you telling me that these security consulting firms are running our agents/sources in foreign countries? Or is that data just available to anyone with a @cia.gov email addy.

Come on guys, don't just get outraged at the idea that he betrayed the nation, think it through.

Just how protected are our secrets if anyone who works for one of the thousand or so companies who are doing anything remotely top secret has the data.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023097999

Edited to correct the age of Snowden. Typo gang, thanks for the catch.

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OK, now will you listen? [View all] Savannahmann Jun 2013 OP
This is the most important and most overlooked aspect of the story. Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #1
Tom Clancy wrote about secrets Savannahmann Jun 2013 #19
Very good points. nt Democracyinkind Jun 2013 #20
Someone should think long and hard about identity theft Glitterati Jun 2013 #2
Several years ago after a mortgage transaction like yours, my identity was stolen. midnight Jun 2013 #7
Almost the only info we have on the story comes from heavily corporatized sources. Orsino Jun 2013 #3
Agents and Sources JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #4
They certainly are Aerows Jun 2013 #28
Just had my annual security refresher course.... Mustellus Jun 2013 #5
That's absolutely right- KrazyinKS Jun 2013 #6
Snowden is 29, not 19. randome Jun 2013 #8
I think there's a bit of credence to his claims justiceischeap Jun 2013 #9
Giving away ANY national security secrets is cause for concern. randome Jun 2013 #10
Nope, he's already cooked his goose justiceischeap Jun 2013 #12
"Back off, America, or I swear I'll commit another felony! I mean it!" randome Jun 2013 #13
When you spout rubbish like this: GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #14
But I try so hard. You may be experiencing Snowden-Denial Syndrome. (SDS). randome Jun 2013 #16
Interesting take Savannahmann Jun 2013 #22
No, no, not at all. The Dixie Chicks took a stand. They will always be cool in my book. randome Jun 2013 #24
But as an employee of the contractor company Savannahmann Jun 2013 #25
I really doubt he was "in the know". He was a Systems Administrator, not an Intelligence Analyst. randome Jun 2013 #29
Two small points.... BrainDrain Jun 2013 #11
Well said Glitterati Jun 2013 #15
+1. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #18
x2 LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #21
Agreed. Contractors should be qualified berni_mccoy Jun 2013 #17
Yes, the problem is not "just" that they're collecting all of this data. Jarla Jun 2013 #23
If they are telling the truth, and Snowden did get names of agents/sources in foreign Governments. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #26
That's the main point here Aerows Jun 2013 #30
That data can be compressed and put on a flash drive without any problem for four laptops. The still_one Jun 2013 #27
More than that, what ever happened to "Need to Know"? Savannahmann Jun 2013 #32
That's definitely been a suprise jberryhill Jun 2013 #31
Dunno, was he an IT guy? Neoma Jun 2013 #33
Then again, the question comes up. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #34
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