OMG, it just dawned on me (sarcasm to lighten up the mood)- (Reply #76)

In the discussion thread: If it's not about Snowden, then why are there so many breathless posts about his asylum status? [View all]

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Sat Jul 6, 2013, 06:22 AM

graham4anything (11,464 posts)

76. OMG, it just dawned on me (sarcasm to lighten up the mood)-

SECRET AGENT MAN, the tv show (in the UK it was known as Danger Man was a spy.

Secret Agent Man.

I never knew that Drake was a spy.

(And Drake of course was #6 in the Prisoner, same character, same Actor (Patrick McGoohan, though for ownership sake
I think Pat always had denied they were connected (contractual reasons)

But after all #6 was actually #1 (see last episode).
(what do you want...INFORMATION)
I am not a number, I am a freeman.

But I never knew #6 was a spy.

Neither was Maxwell Smart.
Neither did I know Ian Fleming had written James Bond as a SPY.

I gotta dig out the old VHS tapes and see.
that would be telling.

this is

be seeing you.

(I always loved these guys-
but I never knew either one of them was (AGHAST a spy)

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btw, I miss WIlliam Gaines, been 21 years now, just last month.

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138 replies	Author	Time	Post
If it's not about Snowden, then why are there so many breathless posts about his asylum status? [View all]	apples and oranges	Jul 2013	OP
The Government is refusing to release the docs authorizing the surveillance.	dkf	Jul 2013	#1
This usually causes a confrontation	giftedgirl77	Jul 2013	#8
Ding ding ding! +1	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#2
this has puzzled me too	grasswire	Jul 2013	#3
Pretty sure we don't mention that other site's name here (nt)	Recursion	Jul 2013	#127
It's become an international incident	LittleBlue	Jul 2013	#4
Oh my God!! "Snowden is the Kardashian of international politics now"	Number23	Jul 2013	#68
Nailed it...nt	SidDithers	Jul 2013	#137
Russ Tice claims that the NSA wiretapped Obama, Supreme court justices, leaders of	think	Jul 2013	#5
Where is the proof though? Talk is cheap and these guys know that..	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#7
Russ Tice blew the lid off the Bush administration illegal spying and that's your response?	think	Jul 2013	#12
Yes it is....but my talk isn't writing accusation checks that my ass cannot cover!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#13
So you are basically calling Tice a liar?	think	Jul 2013	#17
I am saying to anyone making these strong accusations...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#18
In other words yes, you think he is lying. thank you.	think	Jul 2013	#19
So I am supposed to just take his word for it?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#20
You immediately dimiss a whistle blower who went through hell to expose Bush	think	Jul 2013	#21
So to you the ends justify the means?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#31
You're either disingenuous, or you're devoid of logic	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#36
No requiring proof...IS logic!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#39
Ok	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#49
I haven't hitched my wagon to anybody....I don't even own a wagon as a matter of fact.	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#53
There was the thing about his salary...$120k vs $200k.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#60
It's called credibility. Tice has it. The government does not.	Th1onein	Jul 2013	#65
No....credibility is not the heaviest weighted in a court room....physical evidence is.	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#67
We are not in a courtroom, and even if we were......	Th1onein	Jul 2013	#96
No he did not.....	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#97
Why does it have to be either or?	siligut	Jul 2013	#121
Tice would love to testify AGAIN....	think	Jul 2013	#51
I am not conveniently overlooking anything...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#77
Call it what you like. "Put or shut up" is an insult plain and simple.	think	Jul 2013	#78
Did he have physical evidence of it?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#79
Demand evidence from a gagged whistle blower before any investigation	think	Jul 2013	#82
Everyone KNOWS the capability exists....thats not news.	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#85
ah the old "everybody already knew this" canard	bobduca	Jul 2013	#86
No that is NOT what I just said...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#90
Yes, and patently dismiss the possiblity because Tice is what? I conspiracy nut?	think	Jul 2013	#88
Not burying my head in any sand...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#91
So now we've switched from needing proof to even if it's true it is futile to resist spying?	think	Jul 2013	#92
No I haven't said that at all...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#94
Permanent log retention is a policy... it can be reversed.	bobduca	Jul 2013	#93
No because that data is valuable to them....the sell it to each other!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#98
Your rage aside, you don't have any evidence to support your beliefs	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#99
Oh Now I am "raging"	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#100
Your sunny demeanor aside, you don't have any proof to support your beliefs.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#102
You would I guess that doesn't surprise me at all...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#103
Your HTML degree confers knowledge to you about when the NSA is lying?	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#106
hahahahaha "HTML Degree"	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#107
Front-end web design? Yes, I do acknowledge that it exists.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#108
hahahahaha Still laughing...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#109
You sure didn't indicate you were on the DBA end of the equation.	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#113
SQL is near Universal.	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#115
Three quarters of this page	Mojorabbit	Jul 2013	#134
What would qualify as proof in this instance?	Waiting For Everyman	Jul 2013	#72
You can't prove a negative....	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#80
Simple answer is that the heavy-handed fail attempt two days ago	morningfog	Jul 2013	#6
the 'downing' of Morales' plane? wtf.	Whisp	Jul 2013	#10
It was forced to land. It was downed.	morningfog	Jul 2013	#15
next logical step in this irrational primal scream. the plane was downed	Pretzel_Warrior	Jul 2013	#25
Good one. n/t	Tx4obama	Jul 2013	#37
Do you really think that Snowden getting Asylum in any country in South America worries the CIA?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#11
What do you think the CIA will do to him?	morningfog	Jul 2013	#14
Capture him if he throws himself to the floor as soon as they burst into the door to get him.	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#16
And if he doesn't?	morningfog	Jul 2013	#24
He cannot be that stupid.....He knows they are coming!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#27
I think you are suggesting that he could be killed by the CIA?	morningfog	Jul 2013	#29
It's up to Snowden....	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#30
The good guys	bobduca	Jul 2013	#95
It does make it easier. Much easier.	Major Hogwash	Jul 2013	#34
And the more he leaks about international spying, the farther he will cross the line	pnwmom	Jul 2013	#66
Great point. Until I read this I was thinking the USA wouldn't bother with a hit	flamingdem	Jul 2013	#71
We seem to have established a precedent for killing our own. nt	Romulus Quirinus	Jul 2013	#135
He has managed not to cross that line yet. nt	Mojorabbit	Jul 2013	#131
Well we could be discussing Orly Taitz instead.	Lasher	Jul 2013	#9
Damn you!	winter is coming	Jul 2013	#45
Ha ha ha, I guess that was brutal of me.	Lasher	Jul 2013	#116
TheFUCK we can't have it both ways...	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2013	#22
Because it implies there is still hope for a better world	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#23
there IS no privacy....there NEVER will be with an Internet! Period...people need to get that into	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#28
So say the authoritarian's then why does every site have a privacy policy?	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#32
those laws were written before this new fangled invention called the Internet...	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#33
Bullshit	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#35
No NOT Bullshit....sorry....but the Internet SAVES EVERYTHING!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#38
In fact....I just googled your handle....	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#41
What's my email address?	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#47
No its not....I am trying to prove to you that the Internet saves everything!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#50
BULLSHIT	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#52
Please stop denying the obvious....how do you think Google works?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#54
There is a BIG difference between PUBLIC and PRIVATE information	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#56
Not on the Internet there is not!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#58
I refuse to discuss with an ignorant person who pretends to know what he does not	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#61
the basics of search engines for you....	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#63
No sense of civics or technology	DisgustipatedinCA	Jul 2013	#40
Oh really? How does Google work?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#55
It ONLY indexes PUBLIC information	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#59
the Internet indexes EVERYTHING!	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#101
whats my phone number?	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#104
YOU think that is private?	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#105
You don't have it do you? Therefore it's ipso-facto PRIVATE, non-PUBLIC, Personal Information NPPI	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#110
IPSO FACTO.....using the right tools I COULD	VanillaRhapsody	Jul 2013	#111
and you would go to jail	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#112
You are resorting to that already?	treestar	Jul 2013	#119
What, Facts?	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#123
Well, actually, there is.	sibelian	Jul 2013	#69
And here is a google link that shows how easy it is	usGovOwesUs3Trillion	Jul 2013	#89
delete.	KittyWampus	Jul 2013	#26
If you haven't figured this out by now, trying to explain it to you would be	Zorra	Jul 2013	#42
It's about our Surveillance/Police State, that wants to crush him	MNBrewer	Jul 2013	#43
I started a thread about how we should start rectifying this by repealing the Patriot Act	arely staircase	Jul 2013	#44
Well, as a dyed in the wool "it's not about snowden" type	sibelian	Jul 2013	#70
Ratfucking doesn't focus on solutions...it creates discontent so voter turnout is lower.	msanthrope	Jul 2013	#87
Or try discussing the FISA	treestar	Jul 2013	#120
This is a	Mojorabbit	Jul 2013	#132
No yours is	treestar	Jul 2013	#136
Look upthread. nt	Mojorabbit	Jul 2013	#138
there are a number of parts to the whole thing now...	allin99	Jul 2013	#46
Because different people have different viewpoints.	ZombieHorde	Jul 2013	#48
Because for all the assertions that	CakeGrrl	Jul 2013	#57
They are tied together.	Cleita	Jul 2013	#62
Just in case you were serious, if they wanted to kill him	apples and oranges	Jul 2013	#124
Your post that they can kill at will easily is really disturbing.	Cleita	Jul 2013	#125
You're just now noticing that the USA has the most powerful military and intelligence	apples and oranges	Jul 2013	#128
Why do so many: straddle the fence, or believe Zimmerman shoud be given the benefit of the doubt;	TheMadMonk	Jul 2013	#64
Its because what he brought into focus is undefendable.	MichaelMcGuire	Jul 2013	#73
Dunno. Who's posting them?	sibelian	Jul 2013	#74
Most of those threads were by the Snowden haters.	Waiting For Everyman	Jul 2013	#75
OMG, it just dawned on me (sarcasm to lighten up the mood)-	graham4anything	Jul 2013	#76
I love spy vs. spy!! Grew up on Mad Magazine and they were faves	flamingdem	Jul 2013	#117
There aren't, hon. but good on you for making that up	cali	Jul 2013	#81
120+...	sibelian	Jul 2013	#84
The PRO-SNOWDEN faction meets and decides headlines	bobduca	Jul 2013	#83
I have not seen them	nadinbrzezinski	Jul 2013	#114
Ding ding winner!	treestar	Jul 2013	#118
Snowden's become a symbol of resistance to the authoritarian surveillance state. I say roll with it.	backscatter712	Jul 2013	#122
Well a&o...	99Forever	Jul 2013	#126
That's so juvenile	apples and oranges	Jul 2013	#129
This NSA case is Snowden's case.	longship	Jul 2013	#130
He's a seperate issue, but I still care about him as a person. nt	Romulus Quirinus	Jul 2013	#133

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