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Blue Bike

(65 posts)
Thu Jul 11, 2013, 08:54 AM Jul 2013

Ellsberg never said Obama was a worse President than Nixon was [View all]

What's a good way to pretend that Dan Ellsberg is an exaggerating kook?

Easy. Just pretend that he said Obama is a worse President than Nixon was, period, without noting that Ellsberg's comparision focus on specific aspects of the Presidency: transparency and press freedom.

Not health care, not jobs. That's not Ellsberg's focus. Obamacare is an important achievement by Obama and the job situation has improved compared to what it was under Bush.

Irrelevant points are used by Ellsberg haters to "debunk" things he never said, such as:

If Obama was worse than Nixon, how come he won re-election against Romney?

To stick to what Ellsberg said would force Ellsberg haters to discuss a topic they avoid like a hot potato: NSA Spying on all Americans.

In short, let's stop spinning so much and get to the point.


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Nixon was paranoid PATRICK Jul 2013 #1
So far as I can tell, you're absolutely right. Savannahmann Jul 2013 #2
Great post and it needs to be read by everyone. Bonobo Jul 2013 #3
Pentagon Papers lawyer on Obama, secrecy and press freedoms: 'worse than Nixon' ProSense Jul 2013 #4
That headline seems to be talking about James Goodale, not Daniel Ellsberg. eomer Jul 2013 #8
You're right. I was completely wrong. ProSense Jul 2013 #11
Thanks, appreciate you looking into it and responding. n/t eomer Jul 2013 #26
That Ellsberg post was truly one of the most desperate, pathetic OPs I've ever seen on DU ...... marmar Jul 2013 #5
Actually, ProSense Jul 2013 #6
I don't know why I clicked on the links. As usual, waste of time. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2013 #31
Post removed Post removed Jul 2013 #14
+1 woo me with science Jul 2013 #29
+1 Marr Jul 2013 #30
K&R Bonobo Jul 2013 #7
Yes I've noticed Iliyah Jul 2013 #9
Ellsberg said Obama should be impeached and removed from office. geek tragedy Jul 2013 #10
Best demystification of the attacks upon Ellsberg I've read. To wit, HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #12
Would Jesus want the 2012 Presidential electionb nullified? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #13
Jesus would want the 2000 Presidential election nullified (or at least HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #18
So Jesus would oppose attempts to impeach and remove Obama from office, then? nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #19
Who would Jesus drone? Since we're going down this path, let us HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #22
Obama is Caesar, not a disciple. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #24
You heard it here first, folks! GeekTragedy has called Obama HardTimes99 Jul 2013 #25
He's the government. Metaphor. nt geek tragedy Jul 2013 #27
Caesar = dictator Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #32
Funny-- a great example of what you describe is just above your own post. Marr Jul 2013 #17
We have a few people here who very predictably smear anyone who Marr Jul 2013 #15
Same at y'all! Iliyah Jul 2013 #23
It's a mistake to just compare Obama to Nixon. ananda Jul 2013 #16
Stop it. How can we smear Ellsberg if you're going to keep posting facts? Karmadillo Jul 2013 #20
that's common for rightwingers and some lefties alike stupidicus Jul 2013 #21
If Nixon had had access to the internet and today's computers pnwmom Jul 2013 #28
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